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Comentario de Neutronimity

I've got dibs on:

Ragnaros yells: TOO SOON, STAGHELM! TOO SOON!

Comentario de 712875

Fandral Staghelm has become the newest accomplice of Ragnaros, and has replaced Executus as the Firelord's Majordomo. He also leads the new Druids of the Flame.

It's awesome that he transforms into a fire cat. But also he transforms into a scorpion. Maybe something new the druids will be able to transform into later on.

Comentario de 435011

I hope he won't be as cowardly as the previous one was.

Comentario de 252897

Short fight tactics, updated for live.

Two phases that rotate. You can decide when to change phases by clumping up (triggers scorpion) or by spreading (triggers cat). Whenever he changes form, he gains +8% dmg for the rest of the fight which stacks. Whenever he is in a form and uses the special skill, he gains a stack of adrenaline, which increases the speed the next special attack comes. Change the phase once the damage becomes too much. Stack as much as you can early on, less later.

Scorpion
-Whole raid gather in front of boss to mitigate cleave damage.
-If Searing Seeds was casted before entering Scorpion phase (as in, when transitioning from cat -> scorp), move when you are about to explode. Every player will have a different timer.

Cat
-Spread to avoid pounce damage. Dont stand in fire.
-Kill the cat illusion thingies
-If going from scorp->cat, burning orbs spawn. These hit the closest target to them and do increased damage over time. Swap players to prevent unhealable damage.

Heroic

-Only thing (aside from damage increases) that changes is that everyone gains a Concentration bar which fills up over time, increasing damage/healing done and resetting whenever you are hit by an ability.
-His health goes WAY up. 480m on heroic (!). 10min enrage timer. That means 480 000 000 damage in 600 seconds, meaning 800k DPS total for a 25man raid.
-Increase DPS by having tanks/healers eat scorpion cleave and spreading properly in cat form.

Comentario de 409905

Majordomo = butler.

Now imagine Staghelm serving tea to Ragnaros while saying "Here you go, master ~~Bruce~~ Ragnaros."

Comentario de Bareno

Not sure why, but his encounter journal article is on another NPC page with the same exact name...

Linky!

If a Admin could fix that, it would be nice :)

Comentario de DrCheis

From Ask the Devs #8 (Firelands)

Will we see anything of a sympathetic view of why Fandral Staghelm changed allegiances before he meets his demise? – Lorinall (NA)
Not every villain in World of Warcraft gets a chance at redemption. In Firelands, the new majordomo will show you no mercy, so we don’t recommend holding back. However, one of the final quest rewards available from the Leyara quest line in the Molten Front daily quest area will give you a chance to see another side of the former archdruid.

The quest reward looks like it might be , but Wowhead's information on it is incomplete at this time. Can anybody offer more insight?
It's my question so I really wanna know! >.<

Comentario de mixter

Now he's got his own little flaming mr. Bigglesworth.

Comentario de Eldente

We usually do this fight

Unless you meant the PTR, it's funny how you say this, when it's the first raid lockout period.

Anyway, this boss is pretty much easier than all previous ones save Rhyolith. In a 368-ish geared 10-man raid, we did this boss with 1 disc priest, 1 holy pally and 1 resto shaman.

As far as I'd recommend, start with scorpion, spread out after the 10th scythe. PW:Barrier is useful right before the 9th scythe, so that it effects both the 9th and 10th one.

The first cat form should probably be outlasted until the 8th Leaping Flames. By that time, the boss already had 45% during our kill.

The trickiest part comes next - managing seeds and not getting destroyed by Flame Scythe. Note that you can run away from the raid and blast your seed prematurely with Divine Shield / Iceblock before the first scythe hits (don't know whether Cloak of Shadows or Anti-Magic Shell does this as well). This can make things even easier.

The Flaming Orbs do such little damage, that you may be tempted to let it stack indefinitely. However, do not not not not not do this, since Leaping Flames will one-shot you if you let the debuff stack too high.

He should be down right after the first Orbs, or perhaps even before that, if you're full 372+ geared.

Comentario de Rekka

General Tips.

When switching. from Scorpion to Cat Have players use Blink, Disengage, heroic leap, Demonic portal to spread out instantly. This is especially important during the first scorpion phase where you are likely to push Staghelm to 10+ stacks and the flame Scythes will come fast and furious.
Similarly when going from Cat to Scorpion have players start moving in as his energy passes85%. you can get most of the way in while he's still in the air without risking him leaping on someone close.

If you are having difficultly with enough room for seeds in the second scorpion phase make sure during the preceding cat phase that players stay well outside the circle center of the room, and if a Leaping Flames void zone is within 10-20 yards of you be sure to stand near the edge of it to overlap the void zones as much as possible.

Regarding Burning Orbs 2 people are generally sufficient to control an orb. the Orbs usually last until around the 6th leap of the corresponding cat phase. As you approach the fifth and sixth leaps you will likely have void zones on the Orbs and it will be harder to control who they are hitting. During this time Remember that abilities like Deterrence, Cloak of Shadows, and Iceblock can clear and/or prevent new stacks from applying if a player gets caught tanking two, or goes much above 5 stacks.

This fight is won or lost with how fast you can stack up and spread out so make sure your raid knows at which points to do each, and it will die fairly quickly.

Comentario de Nulapwn

Fun fact:
Feral druid boss is most feral-unfriendly encounter in T12

Comentario de MiltiadesBooga

Majordomo Staghelm yells: You stood in the fire!

*snork*

This man is such a damn troll. It's kind of awesome.

Comentario de Quane922

There must always be a Majordomo...

Malfurion: Such a burden...

Comentario de Epicskillz

Q: How many tier items does he drop?

A: It is 3 on 25 man and 1 on 10 man.

Confirmed both.

Comentario de 681419

Burning Orbs is not removed upon boss death, make sure to spread out if you still have the debuff! (It is fun to kill people with it, though =D)

Comentario de 797262

Major Tip for Raids with Rogues Present:

If you have a Rogue present in your raid while engaging Majordomo Staghelm (likely, you do, at least in 25 man), ensure that when the boss transitions to Scorpion Phase (group up phase), your Rogues make use of the Amago ability at their disposal; continued, ensure it is combined with Glifo de Amago for maximum effect. It is best used roughly 3 seconds before the boss uses his Flame Scythe ability.

The ability Staghelm uses only concerns itself with splitting the damage, and not anything effectively nullifying it, meaning your Rogues (if continually timing their Feint well, and in conjunction with other raid wide cooldowns) will eat significant chunks of damage that would otherwise need to be healed away at no cost to their DPS. The 50% damage reduction means roughly (on 25 man mode), 40-50k damage taken, per Rogue, is reduced; that is a lot of mana saved for your healers.

Comentario de zim57398

On one hand, we're finally able to kill him after all he put us through during Classic.

On the other hand, he's the first boss ever to tell bads that they stood in fire.

I'm so conflicted.

Comentario de vicariousink

Quick excerpt from Wikipedia on what a "Majordomo" is.

A majordomo is a person who speaks, makes arrangements, or takes charge for another. Typically, the term refers to the highest (major) person of a household (domo) staff, one who acts on behalf of the (often absent) owner of a typically large residence. Similar terms include castellan, concierge, chamberlain, seneschal, Mayor of the Palace, maître d'hôtel, butler and steward. The term also refers, more informally, to someone who oversees the day-to-day responsibilities of a business enterprise.

Basically, he's Rag's man slave.

Comentario de 307921

Anyone tried using Cardboard Assassin during Scorpion to help soak damage?

Comentario de 404185

Does anyone know what criteria Staghelm uses to determine who is a valid target for Leaping Flames in cat phases?

It doesn't seem to be based on number of people in vs. out and it doesn't seem to care whether you're in melee range or not.

We had him leap onto a mage, a holy priest and a holy paladin who were all standing right in melee. This wasn't just a "you're slightly out of melee range" problem either. I, as a holy priest, got leaped on when I was literally standing right underneath him.

It seems as though he's simply hard coded to look at your spec or something, determine if you're a healer or ranged DPS and then consider you a valid target for a Leap. Can anyone else confirm this?

This means, however, that literally every single one of your healers and ranged DPS must run out for cat phases, something that most strats and guides neglect to mention.

Comentario de Draenors

A person in my raid asked "Is it important to kill the spirit-adds quickly?"
I replied "Yes, because nobody likes a COPY-CAT!"

Then everybody laughed. Then we wiped.

Comentario de ZelosRaine

Just downed this on Ysondre-US a few nights ago.

Tank: Pally
Heals: Druid, Shammy, Pally
Dps: Elemental Shammy, Priest, Frost DK (me), Feral Druid, Fury Warrior, MM Hunter

The fight is really pretty straight forward and easy (if a bit stressful for your healers). The key is phase changing properly and quickly. We started with Scorp, went to 8, using one or two raid wide cds around 4/5 stacks of adrenaline (Spirit Link and, maybe, Aura Mastery, I think). After that first phase, we did 5 stacks for the rest of the phases except for the orb phase, where we only took 3 stacks as the fire orbs were easier to heal splitting them between cat form and scorpion. The first flamescythe of each scorp phase is so slow that the orbs were despawning by the time it came. We killed him right as he ended his 7th overall phase.

The tank found phase changes the hardest. The cat form hits hard, but he would be low from the last flamescythe and healers were running out so they couldn't always get him up. He also popped cds going into scorp as that was the most likely time he would have more than one cat add up.

Healers rotated cds and called each one so as not to overlap. Generally speaking, scorpion phase seemed scarier than it actually was. They almost always popped a raid wide cd right before or right after the 4th sycthe. Tranquilty was saved (I believe) for the 2nd scorpion form when he had casted the flame seed crap.

Dps just need to focus on stacking and spreading quickly. We did two calls for stacking and spreading. We called "stack/spread after next" then, when the ability went out, we called "stack/spread" again just as it came (watching the energy bar makes this easy). It is IMPERATIVE that you stack/spread the very next second after the ability comes out or you won't make the phase change and someone will get one shotted. Hero was used during flame orbs as it was also an execute phase. Ranged and heals took turns with the orbs, but, changing early (3 stacks) really helped to mitigate the damage. Melee, if you have enough, should prioritize the adds over the boss. If you let more than one of them live at a time, the tank will start taking some big hits. Generally, a few dots/cleaves, maybe one or two strong direct attacks, will do it. As a melee, myself, I found it quite natural: The add spawns when the boss jumps so I was able to switch targets to the add, burn it down some, and then get back on the boss without ever really having to move, ensuring I wasn't wasting dps (auto attack, anyone) and could still do quite a bit of damage to the boss at the same time.

You should remind your raiders to save personal cds like ams, personal shields, and other damage reducing abilities for the final flamescythe of the scorpion phase and to be sure to have at least one up for when their seed is exploding. Ams, for me, really helped on all of these. Also, don't be afraid to shorten phases near the end. Yes you take more damage, but, so long as you don't get one shotted by things like flamescythe, it is easier to heal slow but high damage than fast and slightly less high damage. On our kill tonight, for example, we did 3 stacks in orb form and, because someone was down, only 3 or 4 stacks in scorpion, finishing him in cat form.

Luck!

Comentario de UndeadWarlock

Fun fact.

If you are a Human Paladin or Mage, you can use the racial to escape his roots during Nelf phase and then Ice Block/Divine Shield before he finishes casting seeds to avoid it completely.

Comentario de Supermutant

/point Majordomo Staghelm
"You! I remember you... in the mountains."

Comentario de 873132

This boss is somehow related to Leotheras el Ciego or they went to same combat school which taught the importance of Searing Totems as high-priority targets. :D

Comentario de TranquilRage

I tried bringing him Marrowgrain, but he doesn't seem interested anymore.

Comentario de Fuzzywiggles

As of today's nerf Domo is now sitting around 40 mil on 10 man normal.

Comentario de nater131

Hotfix 9/20
Health and damage have been reduced by 25% on normal difficulty. Health and damage has been reduced by 15% on Heroic difficulty.
Druid of the Flame have had their health reduced by 15%, and Sunfire damage reduced by 25% on both difficulties.
The health and melee damage of Spirit of the Flame have been reduced by 25% on normal difficulty, and reduced by 15% on Heroic difficulty.

Comentario de 490383

what is the HP on this boss as of right now due to the hotfix's?

Comentario de RiceCake

I'm sure a lot of guilds are now blowing away this boss after the nerf, but I still this is such an interesting boss that it warrants me to give a few thoughts on it in 10 heroic mode.

For those that are unfamiliar, he has 105 million HP (yes, that much) on heroic 10 man mode, with everything else being the same except for the presence of a buff on everyone in the raid. The buff comes with a bar that increases automatically with time, but resets to 0 upon the character receiving any damage. At 25% full, you gain 25% damage and healing, 50% full is 50% damage and healing, and 100% is 100% damage and healing. Thus the fight becomes a DPS race with smart usage of the buff.

As one of my raiders says it, this fight is pretty much a math problem. The key is to balance who/how many people stay out of the scorpion phase slashes, and how many slashes/pounces that you go for to ensure that you raid could survive. It's a balance between DPS and survivability.

My raid composition is 6 DPS (Fury War, Frost DK, Mut Rogue, Arc Mage, Ele Sham, Marks Hunter), 3 Heals (Disc Priest, Resto Druid, Holy Pally), and 1 tank (Blood DK). Our setup actually changes sometimes, but this I think our more solid setup (plus or minus one change).

The first scorpion phase is our burn phase. That is simply because this is the phase where the damage from the boss is very inconsequential. Since the slashes barely do any damage, we could keep 3 DPS out in order for them to stack concentration to 100% for the entire phase. We picked the 3 melee because of the fact that by staying behind the scorpion boss, they gain extra damage with concentration and also don't get parried as much. Up until the 7th slash we were fine keeping everyone up with normal heals, but we opted to use one or two healing cooldowns for slashes 8 and 9. You could probably go higher, but more than 10 and the slashes come so quickly that it doesn't really matter. We bloodlusted once the DPS has a full concentration bar. With 3 DPS doing around 60k dps, you can't get much more use out of a lust. The boss should be below 75% (rough estimate rounded up to the next 5%).

The first cat phase is the same as normal to us. We go up to 5 pounces, but 6 or 7 should be easily doable. The flames just take up too much space by then imo. The key to the cat phases is for the ranged DPS to move out of the way before the boss lands in order to keep the 100% concentration. The boss should be below 65%.

The second scorpion phase is also the bomb phase. Since the bombs do a lot damage and people are moving out of the group left and right, we opted to keep everyone in front of the boss to take the cleaves. We go up to 10 cleaves, but, again, more is possible but may not be effective. The boss should be below 50%

The second cat phase is the same as the first. The boss should be below 35%

By the third scorpion phase the boss is doing enough damage that if we keep 3 people out some will get one shot by the cleave. For this phase, we keep one DPS and one healer out. The DPS will give extra damage, but the healer (resto druid), with 100% concentration, could pretty much keep the entire raid up till slash 10 by himself. You could switch out the healer for another DPS and simply use healing cooldowns, but the DPS isn't our major concern at this point, surviving is. The boss should be below 20%.

The third cat phase is perhaps the hardest phase of the encounter. The orbs will completely screw up your position and deal a lot of damage to boot. We tank the orbs with 2 ranged each, but it's entirely possible to move the boss so the melee rotates for one. What screws us up before was the strange positioning of the orbs spreading the boss's fire patches out in odd patterns and preventing us from moving around effectively. The key is to remain calm and always have an exit plan either for the transition or to let the other orb tank take the heat. We go up to 4 pounces, by which time the orbs are ending. The boss should be near death.

We usually finish the boss in the fourth scorpion phase. Depending on your DPS you might kill him earlier or later. One thing you can do is to change him to cat form right before his first cleave goes out so you have a long time to DPS him with 100% concentration. Even better, let your pally tank (if you have one) take the first cleave alone before changing him.

Comentario de Sagira

Discipline priests are incredible for this fight on heroic. Why? Atonement double-dips from the concentration buff. Your smite/holy fire gets double damage, and then the ensuing heal *also* gets doubled. I was seeing atonement crits of 150k on 10 man, almost always being applied to the tank (or occasionally being applied onto a leap target, shortly after the first damage tick goes out ). This allows your other healers to concern themselves with burning orbs and not the tank.

Similarly, if you can arrange it so that your melee group is taking the burning orbs, that lowers the overall healer stress level even more. Does require a bit more work on the melee group, so ymmv.

Comentario de 834605

For us it seems to be the second easiest boss in heroic after heroic Shannox
Here is the tactic we used for 10 man heroic Majordomo Staghelm and it works even for guilds that don't have extraordinary dps.
Setup is: 1 Tank , 2 healers , 7 dps.

We started up in Forma de escorpión with 2 of the ranged already spread (hunters should be the ones that are spread because they can't use range while stacked in front of the boss)
When his energy level reaches around 85 we spread so he never hits anybody with
If you have a paladin tank he can even use Defensor candente to take 1 by himself before spreading (this will buy you a bit of extra time but you can do without using tricks like this, plus you can have members that are so mentally challenged that they will spread anyway before he does the that was supposed to be taken by the pally tank on his own even if have explained more than 10 times you will spread before second one and then making excuses that spreading before second instead of first is like relearning to walk :| . If you don't have such members then you're lucky and you can do this or probably did this before nerf and don't need this guide to kill it).
The whole idea is too keep dps as much as possible with maximum Concentración that's why they shouldn't be hit by scorpion and since you will not be taking any damage from the damage taken can be handled with only 2 healers.

Forma felina after spreading to this form you want to take about 6-7 leaps before stacking up , doing more is dangerous because dps might not be able to stack up in time and he might leap on the group causing a shameful wipe. Ranged should start moving when he is close to full energy so ideally they are not hit and lose their buff.
Some hints on the Forma felina :
- if tank has problems taking the as it spawns he should have a macro like
/target Spirit of the Flame
/cast <taunt ability>
if it aggro one of the melee and hit him it will cause to loose his Concentración and you don't want that to happen.
- moving away from the boss when he prepares to leap this decreases the chance to be hit because it will take longer to get to you.
- when he does his last people should start stacking up because otherwise it may take too long and you will end up with a in the middle of the group.

After you will stack up the cycle repeats and Forma de escorpión should be dismissed by spreading before he uses

In addition to the basic rotation Forma de escorpión with 0 and Forma felina with 6-7 there are 2 special abilities you will have to deal with:
Every third transformation Majordomo will do one of his special abilities depending on the transformation he will take.

- Semillas abrasadoras this is done when he transforms to Forma de escorpión and it is the easiest of his to abilities to deal with , you will be in Forma felina when these will explode, just find a nice spot with no-one in 12 y range explode and go back to dps-ing the boss, However this ability will reset your Concentración and that's unavoidable.
- Orbes ardientes unfortunately this ability is not as easy to deal with because you might end up with the boss doing on the people that are taking the orbs (stacks from orbs increases fire damage taken + player getting hit by = instant death) and any death at this point will throw things so out of balance that it will end up in a certain wipe. After a number of wipes on this phase we decided one orb will be taken by ranged and one orb will be taken by melee dps and the tank, so the orb taken by tank and melee will never be in danger of getting hit by and reducing the chance for a on the ranged orb. If you have ranged dps and healers capable of taking orbs and move in time so they don't get hit by leaps this can be optional, if not then you'd have to do with what you got and find ways to work around their inability to handle certain things.
Also for ranged ranged orb they are best to be take by:
- Hunters (Marksman) : Take 4 stacks pop Disuasión pop Disposición and again Disuasión by the time it is over you can take another 4 stacks for around 18 sec
- Mages (Arcane) : Take 4 stacks pop Bloque de hielo by the time it is over you can take another 4 stacks For the last stacks you can use Escudo de maná and Resguardo del mago which combined with Absorción de encantador talent should boost your dps also

If you pass the Orbes ardientes without anyone dead and the boss it's atleast at 50-56 % percent the cycle repeats and you should not have any problem killing this boss on heroic.

Comentario de 852901

I might be repeating this, but according to Wikipedia, Majordomo means highest person of a household staff. Also, Majordomo sets up events and maintains the facilities.

I haven't heard of other elemental lords having secretaries, even Al'akir who is supposedly the weakest. My respect for Ragnaros dropped a bit.

Comentario de Euphemia

Quite a few from the wowhead community seems to keep track of our stratvideos, so here's our kill of Majordomo Staghelm, on 10man normal - unfortunately post-nerfs, but it should still be of value to people looking to get this guy on farm for gearing up for heroic modes.

Several setups will work, ours is usually something like this:
1 tank
2 or 3 melee
4 or 5 ranged
2 or 3 healers (depending on how many stacks of Adrenaline you want to push for in Scorpion)

We usually pop timewarp in the first Scorpion phase to nuke as much as possible and to take as many stacks of Adrenaline as the healers are able to deal with.

Best of luck guys!

//EDIT: With the gear upgrades etc through Dragon Soul, we will now pop timewarp/hero in the first cat phase, as soon as that mage or shaman has built his/her bar to a 100 for max buff :D

Comentario de Maxan123

10ppl HM restor sham

Comentario de TopHatEnthusiast

Hey Staghelm, what's your favorite kind of tomato?

Is it Sun-dyed tomato?

Sun-dyed tomato.

Comentario de sunsparrow

Just beat him,

Mage
Mage
DK
Dk
Priest
Priest
Presit
Warrior
Druid
Hunter

Waiting till 15 stacks

Comentario de wintermadness1

Just killed him on normal without spreading at all...competent Dragon Soul-geared healers should have no problem healing through all the Scythes. When he dropped, he had gotten 25 Scythes off and our healers hadn't broken a sweat.

Comentario de ezek86

Still drops BIS dps caster neck till Pandaria

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