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Comentario de 718291

Me encanta que vallan a sacar esta expansion con dos nuevas e interesantes razas, pero no me gusto para nada que le hayan cambiado el nombre de Ferocani a "Huargen" ¬¬

Para mi me suena como un ingles muy mal traducido :P
Bno les dejo su opinion.

Comentario de josefls

a mi tampoco me gusta el cambio del nombre pero que le vamos a hacer
solo tengo que decir que esto ancioso por saber cual es la montura definitiva huargen !
menos mal ya podemos jugarlo el 9 solo faltan 4 dias xD!

Comentario de 721776

mmmm lo que yo aun no entiendo, es por que los huargen pelean por la alianza, si se supone que los mismos Humanos los encerraron alli ¬¬, 0 logica........

y por que los goblins apoyan a la horda, si se supone que su raza es neutral........lo mas logico es que ahora bahia del botin, gadgetzan, etc deberian de ser de la horda ahora ¬¬.........

jaja si siguen sin logicas puede que de aqui en un tiempo mas, veamos a los muertos-vivientes peleando por la alianza y a los elfo nocturno por la horda! XD....

Comentario de josefls

no puedo creer todavía que no allá montura worgen como se llaman ahora huargen (que mala traducción)
bueno en fin solo me resta como preguntar si uno es de otra rasa como se supone que aprenda la montura de esta no me imagino a un elfo de la noche o un gnomo corriendo en pies y manos jajaja
o si estoy mal informado díganme si hay montura worgen porque esto si me parece muy feo feo

Comentario de 626684

Te comento, josefls

Al hacerme el dk huargen (tan solo para ver eso mismo de la montura) los huargen aprendn un hechizo que les permite andar a un 100% mas de velocidad, por lo tanto, se ha de suponer que esa es su montura. De momento, ni por honor ni por ningun otro método se puede conseguir que el humano, elfo de la noche etc consiga ese mismo hechizo (esto me parece una de las mayores injusticias de la historia del wow, con la montura INCREIBLE de los goblins por un lado, muy facil de conseguir con el tabardo goblin y en cambio yo, que soy exaltado con gilneas, no he encontrado nadie que me de el buffo del 100% de los huargen, los de blizard la liado pardisiima, y no se si lo van a arreglar)

Eso es todo de momento, no se siquiera si sera arreglado alguna vez ni nada. Quizás sea yo que no halla encontrado al PNJ adecuado, pero me he pateado Darnassus de arriba a abajo (en Darnassus se situan los huargen, otro cagadon de blizard, para empezar no hay sitio mas alejado de gilneas que darnassus ¿como se supone que llegan los elfos hasta gilneas? xD. y por otro lado, OTRA vez los goblins se llevan la ventaja, pues se situan en Orgrimmar, ciudad centrica y concurrida donde las halla, y Darnassus creo que es la unica ciudad del wow que ha estado mas veces sin gente dentro que con algun alma pisando sus calles). Quizás será arreglado, tambien puede ser que tu y yo seamos unos increibles mancos y no sepamos encontrar al tio de la montura, no sé.

También he visitado al instructor de equitacion al ver que el intendente de gilneas no me daba nada, y tampoco. Si es una errata de mi juego comentenlo, que creo que o es así, o blizard la ha liado pero bien.

Comentario de jolos

yo he leido algo de las razas y lo que he entendido es que los huarguen no fueron encerrados por los humanos
si no que su mismo rey los encerro para no participar de una guerra, son de la alianza por que como ya lo dijeron las estaban atakando los renegados y los elfos nocturnos que fueron aliados de los ciudadanos de gilneas los ayudaron y ademas los huargen son lobos por un experimento de los druidas elfos, otra cosa gadgeztan, trinquete y bahia del botin no seran horda por que los goblins horda son del cartel palotronque mientras los neutrales son del cartel bonvapor
y si esta asqueroso eso de no tener montura para compartirle a otras razas pero uno se acostumbra a que blizzard le de mas beneficios y cosas excelentes a la horda y que no lo haga mas dificil a la alianza

Comentario de josefls

Hola iniquin92 ps te cuento que tanbien estoy muy aburrido con esas clases de cosas es muy feo los goblin tienen una gran ventaja respecto a eso y creo que no van a cambiar en la pagina ya dice toda la descripcion y dice que los worgen prefieren volver a su forma primitiva corriendo en 4 patas y noce que mas pero con eso no ay lio el lio o lo feo es que otras razas no obtengan nada de los worgen como nueva montura ni con honor ni nada

y a lo de las hubicaciones los worgen estan en darnnassus porque los elfos de la noche fueron los que los rescataron y eso =D y ps es sierto en darnassus nunk pero nunk hay nadie ....es la ciudad mas sola en la historia de wow y creo que siempre a sido asi porque esta muy lejana al igual que el exodar
les dejo saludos a todos los wow adictos o que son a mantes de este juego =D

Comentario de 626684

No, yo me referia a que me parece imposible que los elfos (desde la otra punta del mundo, xD) sean los que lleguen a gilneas y que no los rescaten los humanos, ya que los goblins si que son rescatados por los orcos xD. Lo de la montura ya lo comenté me parece una putada porque ademas, ¿quien se imagina a un gnomo o a un draenei corriendo a toda leche a 4 patas?seria de lo mas vergonzoso que hubiera echo la alianza xD

Comentario de josefls

jajajaja tienes razon iniquin92 seria super vergonzoso pero pues la verda deverian corregir eso aunque esa montura sobre la que todo el mundo especulaba al principio ( http://i29.tinypic.com/205cac8.gif )era como muy fantaciosa jaja pero eso es mi opinion y si tiene razon que pereza la de los humanos y pues dijeron mandemos los elfos de la noche que estan sin hacer nada jajaja
con lo del cata hubieran aprovechado y hubieran inventado noc que darnassus se destruyo y que ahora era una masmo y que la ciudad fue reconstruida en otra parte mas central o mejorcito no creen ?

Comentario de 729887

a mi me parece bastante buena la montura de los huargen, como dicen darnassus es lejos pero me parece logico que esten con los elfos , si ellos fueron los que les rindieron una mano cuando estaban siendo atacados.

PD: amo a mi huargen druid es lo maximo jajajajaj

Comentario de KonataIzumi

aun no he probado el cataclysm, sobre la montura un comentario, no me molesta que corran en 4 patas, es algo normal de alguna forma ya que son lobos asique es algo logico, el tema es, sino aprenden equitacion ¿como vuelan? eso es un tema complejo, alas no creo q le salgan, y al menos deberian poder usar montura de otras razas sin tener unas propias

Comentario de antorchacros

bastante buena LA raza huargen y su montura

Comentario de emiliano18

***-El Worgen es la mejorrr Raza que hay en todo el mundo del wow la unica raza que puede competir con el es el Goblin
Por sus habilidaades raciales el aspecto todo y el WORGEN mola en todos los aspectos en muntura en casacteristicas en ahbilidades raciales y ademas es muy fuerte etc....***.

Comentario de 755553

los goblins tienen lo del banco de bolsillo! es demasiado

Comentario de Cracium

Konatalzumi tiene razon como van a volar ¿que se convierten todos en un pajaro asi como si fueran druidas? pues no y los de blizzard ya la cagaron mas de una vez como esto: los draenei nadie, NADIE, sabia qe existian hasta qe llego el parche. sin emcambio los murlocs y los naga existieron y se jugo como pueblo desde el warcraft 3(expansion) y son mejores en todo y asi hay muchas cagadas de blizzard

Comentario de 645960

sois unos putos cryers ahi lo dejo:
-ai mAma k lOs dE bliSAr nO pONeN mONtuRa a Los gUARjEn, k mALa tRAducCion cry cry cry.

Los worgen no tienen montura porque seria ilogico que un lobo necesite un caballo, los worgen son alis porque les ayudaron contra los renegados, los no son horda, el cartel pantoque es horda, por lo tanto el cartel bonvapor sigue siendo neutral, documentaros por favor que aqui hay gete que intenta disfrutar de su visita.

Comentario de 691794

pues yo creo que lode la montura voladora es normal porque para todas las razas de la alianza es neutral la montura que son los grifos pero si me parece mal que los huargen no puedan compartir montura con las otras razas

Comentario de 463946

según yo la ciudad mas abandonada es "El Exodar" no Darnassus y lo malo de los huargens es q sino pueden usar las monturas ni con honor ni con nada no obtendran el logro de las monturas con honor A mí la caballeríay peor para los huargens

Comentario de 661831

escuchen, cada raza comienza con su montura propia (osea a nivel 20 que no tienes que exaltarte con otra faccion) comolos humanos con su caballito, o los elfos de de la noche con sus sables de la noche canibales, los huarguens o como se escriba van a tener su propia mount pero sera algo que NADA MAS ELLOS PODRAN ADQUIRIR es normal porque son lobos y es ilogico ver a un draenei o un elfo de la noche corriendo en cuatro patas, ( los elfos de sangre si porque como que son maricos y usan la pose de el 4 lol)... pero es cierto que los huarguens no van a poder adquirir monturas con otras clases de la alianza? es un poco ilogico recuerden que ellos adoptan formas de humanos y de igual manera no veo el porque nuestros lobitos aliz nopuedan tener monturas de las demas personas.... si es asi Blizzard la cago para dañar la poseta

Comentario de vladimirGT

Mas parecen perros....xD

Comentario de 795614

A mi la verdad me tiene si cuidado el tema de la montura, lo que me gusta es que a pesar que blizzard le da muchas ventajas a la horda, y a pesar de que todo se lo facilita a la horda, la alianza siempre ha sido mejor en muchos aspectos, y es debido a que sufre mas en conseguir las cosas, y como dicen por hay.....lo que no te mata te hace mas fuerte.

Comentario de 798804

BUENO, Les voy a explicar unas cosas a todos je, :

Punto 1: Los Huargen son (fueron) humanos de Gilneas, si han leído la historia o jugado todos los Warcraft, sabrán que Gilneas era una de las 6 capitales Humanas, de la "Alianza" (antes de la union de Enanos y los demás)
Ocurre que Gilneas participa activamente de varios acontecimientos, incluyendo la 1ra guerra contra los Orcos, pero para la 2da Guerra, cuando estos destruyen Ventormenta y empiezan a conquistar los reinos, Alterac, Loch Modan, etc, El Rey de la ciudad de Gilneas cierra su ciudad, se amuralla (como los Enanos en Forjaz) para impedir ser conquistados, a diferencia de los Enanos, Gilneas no presenta ayuda a la alianza en toda la Guerra y la gente de Lordaeron y Dálaran se olvidaron completamente de su existencia (dando la Ciudad como destruida)
Luego de la guerra en el monte Hyla empieza la cacería de Illidan, estas aventuras llevan a Malfurion a los reinos del Este, cerca de las costas de Telsamar, y Malfurion ve que esa tierra esta mas destruida que los bosques de Ashenvale, y decide quedarse ahí con sus Druidas para revivir ese mundo muerto y no seguir mas a su hermano, etc.
Es ahí que los Elfos se encuentran con los humanos de Gilneas, maldecidos y acosados por los No-muertos, y algunos enloquecidos.
Los Druidas ayudan a estos humanos, y al verlos tan desnutridos y diezmados se les ocurre enseñarles artes del Druidismo (hubo experimentos, salio todo mal, y ahi quedaron así) sin embargo era entonces cuando ya Los Renegados existían e intentaban destruir a todos los humanos de alrededor, y eran los enfrentamientos con el Alba Argenta, por eso los Huargen se unen a la Alianza, porque los no-muertos no les dan elección, sin embargo con la gente de Lordaeron no se llevan bien (como los Elfos de Sangre y los Troll y Orcos y no muertos, solo es Alianza por conveniencia, ya que los humanos no los van a perdonar porque les negaron su ayuda contra los Orcos)

Punto 2: Los Huargen si pueden usar otras monturas, y la de ellos nadie, y esta bien, ¿tanto lío por 1na o 2 monturas? la mejor sigue siendo las de los Gnomos XD

Punto3: LOS DRAENEI SI EXISTÍAN ! siempre fueron parte de la historia de Warcraft ! jueguen al Warcraft 1 y 2 a aparecen los Draenei. cuando los humanos vencieron a los Orcos y muchos huyeron a Draenor (Terrallende llamado por los humanos) un grupo de héroes decidió entrar por esos portales y seguir a los Orcos, y entablaron una guerra sin cuartel contra los Clanes de Orcos del Caos, y obvio estos eran muy superiores en número y los humanos empezaron a buscar "trincheras" ahi encontraron a Akuma una Draenei, de las últimas de su especie y con ellos recuperaron el libro de Mediv y cerraron los portales a Azeroth desde dentro sacrificando sus vidas.

Punto 4: El exodar y Darnassus son a la vez Lunargenta y Entrañas, no son "habitadas" porque no ofrecen lo que Ogrimmar o Ventormenta.

Punto 5: es correctolos goblins horda son del cartel palotronque mientras los neutrales son del cartel bonvapor, como ocurre con los Trolls, no porque una faccion se una a la Horda todas lo hacen.

Punto 6: Sobre lo de si es mejor la Horda etc: No, no es mejor, si les gusta ser Horda ahi ustedes, no entiendo para qué se crean pjs en la Alianza entonces, y si, tienen muchos raciales los Goblin, pero ninguno realmente útil, es muy superior el del Huargen, sin dudarlo.
Celeste

Comentario de MrBloodyshadow

Para saber más sobre esta "raza" humana ver http://es.wow.wikia.com/wiki/Huargen.

Comentario de 834707

Mira amigo los huergen salieron de los elfo druidas como dice la historia del comic
los elfos tenian proivida la forma de jauria que hasia que los elfos druidas perdieran el control y solo se preocuparan de una cosa = sobrevivir
2. gilneas se enserro por sus enemigos la verdad no me acuerdo como se llamavan pero creo que era una trivu orca o humana renegada a y si los no muetos atacaron pero la verdad fue la plaga antes de que el rey lich callera.
3.los worgen su nombre real, son creacion de dralar que era un elfo de la noche asta que se obsesiono con la forma de jauria en la epoca de la batalla de los elfos contra los satiros gran guerra permitame decirles.... una elfa que actualmente ayuda al rey gren grinsli o algo asi... fuciono la bara de elune con el colmillo de el dios jauria creando asi la guadaña de elune una reliquia en el juego... con ello de forma lobo de los elfos de noche pasaron a ser worgen con el poder de la huadaña... vencieron a los satiros pero una ves que terminaron el trabajo los worgen se revelaron contra los elfos por traicion...
esto causo que malfurion tempestira el shado actual encerrara a sus ermanos en un sueño eterno pero dralar el alpha como le llamavan los worgen escapo y consigo se alio con la plaga causando la pelea actual de gilneas
4. el rey grinsli pidio rapidamente la ayuda de cientificos para poder apasiguar la ira de los worgen y que tuvieran razon de nuevo de ahi se unieron a la alianza de nuevo para exterminar la plaga de sus tierras
5.con ello en el juego los no muertos desgraciadamente tienen accesos por la puerta que a caido y me refiero a los renegados no a la plaga porque la plaga vino por mar y los worgen de dralar por tierra era una guerra casi perdida.. salvados solamente por el gran uso de la alquimia para tomar control de los worgen y asi repeler el ataque
bueno os dejo el comic de curse of worgen que son en total 5 tomos busquen los demas por que muestro nadamas 3, para que se informen mas detalladamente esta chido os recomiendo que lo vean dc comic si se paso de ondas....jejeje XD
http://www.taringa.net/posts/comics/10162565/Curse-of-the-Worgen-_Espanol_.html
bueno bye
mas informacinon pregunten jejeje(##RESPBREAK##)2056##DELIM##adashiel##DELIM##

Comentario de 835906

si tengo ese worgen lvl 85

Comentario de 762449

bien comunidad quisiera preguntarles una cosita rara. los Huargen cazador ¿con que arma cuerpo a cuerpo empiesan?

Comentario de gemanoma

Acaso soy la única que piensa que los huargen macho son más guapos que los Elfos de sangre? D:

Comentario de 582869

los elfos de sangre son "afeminados" estoss haugren si son machos y mas aparte son ways

Comentario de Hankj

Ahora con el parche 4.3, los huargen ya tienen montura, 2 caballos
aunque dire k no estoy muy deacuerdo, ya k es una montura repetida, aunque alomejor lo hacen para parecer mas humanos a los ojos de las demas razas

Comentario de 896017

A ver, vale que los Renegados invadimos Gilneas, pero que conste que empezaron los Huargen enviando espías a Rémol

Comentarios

Comentario de Hyperlynx

For the love of god there had better be a /howl counterpart to Tauren's /moo

EDIT: There is not... and /roar was brutally disappointing (on a female) too.

Comentario de Slanter

Hopefully this will answer a few questions

Years have passed without news from the isolated human kingdom of Gilneas. King Greymane and his people severed any connection with the outside world after the Second War, and ever since then the Greymane Wall, the seas, and the mountains have protected the people of Gilneas from outsiders' eyes. Now the wall is broken, the Forsaken advance in the area, and the mysterious curse of the worgen summoned by Arugal has infected large number of Gilnean citizens.

Only the timely intervention of the night elves saves the people of Gilneas - but even the elves could not prevent all of the damage - almost the entire country have been transformed into worgen. A "cure" of sort has been developed and while not perfectly effective, it allows the cursed people to keep their mind and consciousness even when transformed.

Quick Facts

Side: Alliance
Starting area: Gilneas (1 - 15)
Mount: Mean creature (see below)

Source: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/guide=cataclysm&races#races-worgen

One question I do have though - will you be able to speak common as a worgen and/or worgen as a human?
(In /say - like how locks in demon form speak demonic)

Comentario de Jeaz

They have human voices in human form, although with more of a British accent.
Youtube clip of female worgen voices can be found here

Comentario de masoud18

I wonder what is best warrior with sprint or rouge with two sprints =S the other classes are not that tempting..... maybe priest with sprint......what will people choose?

Comentario de Kaltzor

"Worgen" as a language... whats that like? "RAARGH ROAR!"?

Comentario de Kaltzor

The bear form... That face alone is enough reason to roll a worgen druid and go for a bear spec.

Comentario de 382219

At least they don't sparkle!

Comentario de stefanya

"Worgen" as a language... whats that like? "RAARGH ROAR!"?

...does tauren when they speak say only moo mooo mooooooooooooooh ? xD

Comentario de DavidWolfen

Male Worgen jokes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj7SdoPP0qQ

Male Worgen flirts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjwDrF2RSak

Female Worgen jokes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFPgxTG9r7Y

Female Worgen flirts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQqIPjT9ulM

Comentario de 461877

Because it's "Cat form".

Comentario de 571540

obviously 19th century British accent :D
but i still dont like the knowing that worgens dont have tail.

Comentario de 429367

best worgen saying: im a worgen donor

Comentario de deliduul

Worgen female=B- I- T- C- H. It is BY DEFINITION! Yep, That's right.

Comentario de Patty

Correction: They sound like Hugh Grant. Hardly anybody in Britain sounds like Hugh Grant.

Comentario de 485656

manbearwolf.

Comentario de 553550

http://www.wow.com/2010/06/30/cataclysm-beta-worgen-silly-and-flirt-sounds/

this is the Worgens /flirt and /silly... hope this answers some questions on the voices and stuff

Comentario de Hotice2104

So why is it that Worgens have 5 racials to the Goblins 6?

Yes I do know that their Jump and Barrage abilities are on a shared CD but it does in fact give them immense situational use while 1 of the Worgen racials is wholly and completely useless in terms of any in game value aside from RP (READ: two forms). Its an easy argument to make that as a result the Worgen have one less racial to work with since as previously stated by Rankkorr absolutely anything you do besides stand around puts you back in Worgen form anyway. No tricking anyone in a BG to think you are a Human as combat, casting/buffing, stealthing, mounting, and anything else besides an Emote shifts you back. This "fun" racial has no practical benefit. Does it fit lore, yes. Is it kinda cool, to some I am sure it is. Is it the only racial that is PURELY COSMETIC IN THE GAME, yup.....

At the moment the other races have anywhere from 3-6 racials and while in most cases at least 1 racial won't really benefit you (Human/Gnome's warrior's spirit/intellect, Tauren without Herbalism, Orc elemental shaman's loss of every racial benefit besides hardness, etc etc) but the innate way Two Forms was designed is such that no spec of any class with any profession gains in anyway from this racial. Rather than have "some situations where this doesn't apply" we have "no situation where this does apply."

So again, Cheers to all of you who RP. You will all have something regardless of who you choose to be and how you choose to make your toon that will set you a little bit more apart from other races but also give you something in common with both other Worgen and Humans. But then I'd like something else, anything else, in addition to make up the loss for the rest of us (the rather large % of WoW players who do little if any RP).

note: I'd also like to see blizzard add racials to those that have less than 5 so things will be more balanced but that's me

K I will concede one more benefit I just thought of that could be small could be big. Starting an arena match in Human shape to attempt to confuse the enemy. I doubt it would really have any affect on the match but since I thought of it I thought it only fair to mention it.

Comentario de 545062

But with Cataclysm, it is revealed Worgen are druids that worshipped Goldrinn (Wolf Ancient) yet fell under the bloodlust of their feral forms, turning them into Worgen.

"The curse originated from the druidic sect who followed Goldrinn, known as Druids of the Scythe. They shapeshifted into the feral Worgen and eventually lost their minds to its violent nature. The other Druids agreed that they must be locked away, and thus put them into eternal slumber deep beneath a tree... until the day Arugal and Velinde Starsong tampered with the Scythe of Elune. It was the night elves, after all, who created the curse in the first place. Obliged to help their newfound allies, they re-introduce them to the Alliance."

-http://www.wowwiki.com/Worgen

Edit: This was a reply to somebody calling out on my previous post, saying my lore was wrong.

Comentario de 315042

Anyone else think that the female worgen voice is almost exact to some of the females voices in Fable 2?

Comentario de 182403

First class to have every racial (except the cosmetic human form) to benefit in pvp, sprint, disease reduce, curse reduce, crit...

...and it will prolly still not be enough to make up for 2trinket humans.

So happy i got shadowmelt that way i can deny casts.. after 1.5 sec.

Comentario de 557154

They say same thing like in worgen form, but they have diffrent voice in forms. ^^

Comentario de 613261

they're not Australian. they're clearly british.

Comentario de 76083

How is that any different from Tauren changing from Bulls to cats?

Comentario de Woscar123

You think my ears are big? You should check out the rest of me. lol

Comentario de 499605

I wonder what the druid flight form looks like.

Given that both the bear and car forms have a wolfish head...it would be interesting to see a druid worgan with a wolfish head in flight form too! o.O

Comentario de 626326

"The curse originated from the druidic sect who followed Goldrinn, known as Druids of the Scythe. They shapeshifted into the feral Worgen and eventually lost their minds to its violent nature. The other Druids agreed that they must be locked away, and thus put them into eternal slumber deep beneath a tree... until the day Arugal and Velinde Starsong tampered with the Scythe of Elune. It was the night elves, after all, who created the curse in the first place. Obliged to help their newfound allies, they re-introduce them to the Alliance."

Also:

Hi to all and sorry for my bad take on lore...

Fixd

Comentario de mixter

"For the holiday he tried to give me a bone.No a BONE , and ordinary bone. What did you thi-"

Kudos to those who get it.

Male worgen dance is JT's "Let me talk to you my love" so this is probably refference to "D*** in a box" which is by JT aswell.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Gryphon##DELIM##

Comentario de 536914

lol the 'For the Holiday he tried to give me a bone. No, a BONE, an ordinary one. What did you thi-... Oh!' totally a reference to '!@#$ in a Box'

Comentario de Muzzle248

I think the druids of the scythe were night elves.

Comentario de diamondstor2

Anyone else thinks its odd for a Worgen to become a druid?
I mean, if i were cursed by druids i'd choose to eat my own &^(% over being a druid.

Comentario de stefanya

Paladins, in lore, are immune to curses of any, ANY kind. The reason they're not immune to curses in-game is because imagine the anger it would have caused.

*add a + to "Qmccumber" *

....the lore of druids work same but i see ppl like downrate my comments......i don't know then wich games you guys play but druids (in warcraft,wow and D&D for example) druids are elfs, half elf and also humans k, but humans without curses...so races without curses, i see you all want worgen druid but still not good for lore,so continue to dawnrate my comments, but the lore is the lore...

Comentario de 571648

Because of lore reasons involved, Worgen never had anything to do with elements, they are "new" in azeroth, they come from another dimension. The whole thing with the scythe of elune makes the night elves "contact" the gilneans, and because of their disease, or curse, whatever you want to call it, they are transformed into feral beings, and as they help the night elves, the night elves teach them the druid way. It would be very lore-incorrect to make worgens shammys.

Also, the night elves contacted the people from Gilneas, not the people form Stormwind or any human places (i dont know much about human "clans" because i play horde) And also, the worgen have really nothing to do with shammys, because they are not helping the Earthern Ring, wich is the organization of all shamans in azeroth, from all races, horde and alliance, to help "mend" the world from the scars that Deathwing left when it finally came to azeroth.

Dwarves, i dont know much, but i think its because the dwarves have a deep connection with the Earth element itself, and thats why they want to help Thrall mend the Earth. Thats what shammys do, right?
I really dont know who did the "teaching" there, Draenei comes to my mind, but if it were like that, the would be some changes in the Draenei storyline, and thus, the starting area.

Those storylines are very different from each other, but at the end, everyone its going to be doing the same thing, helping The Earthern Ring mend the world with quests from the shammys from all over the world. What counts is the Lore from the race itself, and wich inspiration it recieved from any other races, just like worgen and night elves. This inspiration derivates in the classes that each race can be, thats what cataclysm is all about. Changing the lore (or in this case creating new lore) for the races to make them able to be different classes (Nice move blizz, GJ) without breaking the sense of the lore wich involves the races itself, and their ideals. And also, killing a dragon for teh phat lewtz, wich will end just like WoTLK ended, with a statue on dalaran (or the sanctuary in cataclysm) with a cinematic when you click in it.

It seems like today i wanted to write a long comment answering lore questions ^^

Comentario de Oreocookie

Okay, so basically to make it simple and sweet, the Male Worgen model got updated. In my opinion it looks A LOT better, as in more fierce and no more furries. Can't wait to see if Female Worgen get a revamp :3 I hope so.

Link that shows Worgen model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C3JZ6HQrbY&videos=7TkcAjv8fss
Just in case the image isn't posted, here are images:
http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/image/1670-updated-worgen/

Comentario de 109421

Just want to add my thoughts on the lore.

First off, Dwarves as shaman is due to their Earthen heritage. They were shaped from the earth by the creators (as we learned from Ulduar and Halls of Lightning/Stone). Therefore the dwarves would feel a deep connection between the earth and themselves.

Secondly, Draenei existed in the Outlands at the same time as Azeroth long ago before it was destroyed by Gul'dan. If you guys have read the lore posted on the WoW official website, there is the story of the Draenei came across Shamanism. A brief outline goes along the lines of, there was a Broken Draenei (one of the draenei that got warped by the shattered outlands) who found himself losing touch with the Light (what Paladins follow and put faith in) after some storyline of him searching for a way to reconnect with the Light, he finds himself being beckoned by the elements themselves. A conversation follows, ending with the elements agreeing to teach the Broken about Shamanism and how the elements work. So long story short, the Draenei were contacted by the elements, and those who wish to follow the path do so to this day. I recommend you find the story on the Burning Crusade portion of the WoW site.

Lastly, and most importantly referring to why Worgen should be druids. Even though they are cursed with a beastly rage, it doesn't mean they cannot be taught the ways of druidism. The curse they bear (no pun intended) has no impact on them learning. It is a fate they are locked to of endless violence and rage hence the literal transformation into a beast. So my hypothesis is this. The Night Elves figure that the Worgen would be ideal for Druidism because of the ease with which they transform already. Their natural ability to shapeshift given them by the curse could in fact be a gift. Not to mention Lorewise, the Night Elves and the Worgen have an extensive history together considering the entire Scythe of Elune business, so it would seem only fitting that the Night Elves try and compensate for their past indisgression and help the Worgen find their place.

/end Lore rant

Comentario de 392671

some of the flirt and jokes for the male worgen are just .... i dont know if its turn away and pretend you didn't hear them or just laugh and mentally think of Austin Powers/James Bond wrapped in a furry body with a bad over bite and a craving to sniff crotches

Comentario de 545254

Give A Worgen A Gnome

Comentario de Typhron

The Worgen CUrse is just that. A curse.

Paladins, in lore, are immune to curses of any, ANY kind. The reason they're not immune to curses in-game is because imagine the anger it would have caused.

Not quite. House rules lore usually have paladins as 'uncorrupted beings', much like monks with armor. Humans and Dwarves of the Silver Hand, Draenei, and (rather because of) Blood Knights all share these traits in their history (belven being recent) and are able to become paladins as such. The reason Worgen can't be paladins might be the same reason trolls can't: They don't need to.

No worgen paladins. TYKTHXBAI

This, also. :v

Comentario de 596967

/waits for the Worgen Freeman / Piers Worgen jokes.

Comentario de zomg5

so these guys are gonna start out friendly or neutral like B elfs and undeads?

plz don't downrate im just being curious.

Comentario de ExperimentX4d2

Interesting question. You don't start actually fighting as a worgen till about level 5/6. Does that mean it's possible to be a Human Druid for the first few levels?

Comentario de 640828

I wonder what the Worgen Flight forms will look like

Comentario de Jbt11

Anyone else find it disturbing Worgens get a passive Skinning talent?

Comentario de PurpleDruidGirl

Anyone else find it disturbing Worgens get a passive Skinning talent?

Not at all, its no different then the gnomes having the +15 to engineering, or the draenei having +5 to gemcutting, or the tauren having the +15 to herbalism. All it means is the worgen wont have to carry a skinning knife, nothing more, if you are worried about worgen ganking your skinning kills then you obviously have alot more to worry about then that.

Comentario de HandofDeath

question can worgen death knights get the top hat from the quest?

Comentario de Meatrose

I'm curious about something and I couldn't find any information related to it, although it seems (judging by random worgen character creation videos) that it doesn't work the way I want it. Anyhow, here's my question; when creating a worgen, do you have any means to control how your character looks in human form, or is that just randomized? I want to know cause randomized human characters often look retarded and it would be great if you also got to design your human form the way you usually design human characters.

Comentario de Zanzari

Both worgens and goblins are speaking dirtier than the others.

Comentario de Grimora

So?

Trolls get:

- 5% increased damaged vs. Beasts. - This is just silly imo, unless you're a dedicated Skinner.
- Health regeneration - In all honesty, this is crap when you get to any high level.
- Berserking - One of the only decent Racials Trolls get.
- Bow/Throw Specialization - Total crap unless you're a Hunter with a bow.
- Voodoo Shuffle - Again, one of the only decent ones Trolls get, but it's still kinda meh.

All these useless Racials, and yet people are going to create Troll Druids/Warlocks come Cataclysm. You're argument is in all honesty just silly. I like Worgen because they're well rounded as far as I see it, just like Goblins. One isn't better than the other, they're pretty much the same.

Here are my comparisons:

- Worgen get Darkflight, Goblins get Rocket Boots ~~(and Rocket Barrage has a shared cool-down with them) - And as I've read, Nitro Boots make you drop the flag in WSG,~~ so that's a +1 for Worgen in Battlegrounds and escaping players/mobs in a touchy situation.

- Worgen get Aberration, Goblins get Best Deals Anywhere - So, Gobbos get reduced prices while my Worgen dies less in PvP/PvE? Yeah, +1 for Worgen since gold is NOT hard to obtain in this game.

- Worgen get Two Forms, Goblins get Pack Hobgoblin - Honestly, both are useless to me, I can go to Dalaran/Shattrath any time I need a banker for items. And the Worgen thing is mostly for Roleplaying as I see it. So 0 for either race.

- Worgen get Flayer, Goblins get Better Living Through Chemistry - Both are pretty much determined for what you pick as far as professions. But Worgen have two leather wearing classes (minus Shamans for Goblins, since they wear mail later) and skinning faster would maybe make farming a bit easier. Goblin get +15 to Alchemy, which would be only useful at a low level to save some frustration I guess. 0 for either race since these are profession bound.

- Worgen get Viciousness, Goblins get Time is Money - Both are pretty useful. My heals/spells/melee could either crit more, or be faster. To be honest, +1 for both races and a hearty thank you to Blizzard.

So at the end of it all (as far as usefulness goes):

Worgen: 3
Goblin: 1

To me, Worgen feel more well rounded as for the reasons stated above. They would only become even to me if Goblins didn't have two Racials that share a cool-down. Also, I would only count Best Deals Anywhere useful only if I, or anyone else, was a brand new player to World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. Only then would it make them 3:3 to me.

Comentario de 300555

Apparently, the new "Mount" spell has been datamined and believe it or not; the mount is YOURSELF as a WORGEN!
(As of Cataclysm Beta: Build 12984, so it might change. MMO-Champ link)

Edit: This has now been confirmed by Blizz.
Edit2: Fixed the link.

Comentario de 680700

I am happy with this new race. One problem though... Why do they look so feline... Come on blizz... You couldn't make them look like the classic worgens from SFK and Duskwood? I do like the racials however... Two forms is great despite what anyone says and skinning speed increase is great for tanks needing to move quickly through raids and instances.I also like their mount... theres nothing in game like it.I look foward to playing my worgen druid tank! :D

Comentario de 370864

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Comentario de Yakobo15

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Comentario de 324747

For all you worgen fans dont forget to check the comic book.

Comentario de 710387

man i guess running wild is cool but i was kinda looking forward to the boar wolf thing the mount was soposed to be. so its another version of travel form but better?

Comentario de 69947

Looking forward to seeing a /fetch command similar to the /moo one we love to use to tease Taurens.

Anyone got any idea what a worgen /dance looks like?..

Comentario de 717474

/cast Darkflight
/cast Bladestorm
/y You should not lock the open door
run away, run away, run away
Fullmoon is on the sky and I'M not a man anymore.

Comentario de 279230

Not sure if it's been posted, but at level 20 you do -not- have to train riding skill, you get it for free. I'm going to assume 40 is the same as well.

Comentario de 415857

Has anyone noticed the female laugh is the same as their /chicken? I relized this when i lol'd at a friend dying, could someone confirm this?

Comentario de 113593

Worgen males wear their cloaks at an angle that causes shields and weapons to clip through them. It looks bad.

Comentario de KatieSkyye

So I've heard a rumor flying around that people will be able to ride Worgen like mounts when they're in their Running Wild stage. Any credibility to that?

Comentario de BubbaDuke95

A lot of people in my realm were whining on how they had to do the quest to get the two forms racial. So for all of those who can't wait, you can type /transform at any time once you become a worgen to revert to a human.

Comentario de GrooveMaster

Unskinnable.
: (

Comentario de 137568

There is one place where a Worgen in 'Running Wild' form may be mounted.. The jellyfish lift in Throne of the Tides :3 But you get dismounted from said Worgen as soon as they leave the lift. Still kinda funny though ^^

Also I dont know if this got any more speculation on it because I couldn't be bothered sifting through 200+ comments; but I believe the reason Gilnean humans could be druids could be linked to the fact that they were once obviously part of the Alliance and had contact with Night Elves, but they locked themselves away. It could mean that Humans have had the ability to get in touch with the druidic nature in themselves but the knowledge was lost when Gilneas segregated itsself from the rest of Azeroth. Just my theory though ^^

Comentario de 104695

You can ride any mount other than Running Wild in human form and cast anything that doesn't puts you into combat, including buffs, without having to turn into worgen.

Comentario de 649482

I've actually found that wowhead says that the languages are common and Gilnean, but when I select the languages menu, it only has common. Do you have to do something to speak Gilnean? I've passed the starting zone. . .

Comentario de asendorf

why is nothing in Gilneas fo me when i go there and is it because i started as a worgen dk?

Comentario de Wromthrax

I guess now the phrase "alliance dogs" finally has it's true meaning.

Comentario de Zeshar

/attacktarget - "Unleash your rage." Very similar to this SFK boss when he turns you into a worgen.
/openfire - "Release the hounds!" Houndmaster Loksey

Could be coincidence, but I prefer to think that they're deliberate references.

Comentario de ZIGMER

Racial changes possibly coming in 4.0.6, and currently been tested by Blizzard:

The worgen racial trait Darkflight now has a 2-minute cooldown, down from 3, and is no longer on the global cooldown. In addition, the movement speed bonus now stacks with existing bonuses, but cannot be activated while Sprint or Dash is active (and they cannot be activated while Darkflight is active).

Comentario de guatafu

I disagree with Grimora.

Flayer vs Better Living Through Chemistry: Goblins win, everyone knows crafting professions are harder to level up, particularly alchemy as not only do you need herbs but also components that you have to purchase from other professions. And farming from elementals. For skinning its pretty straightforward if youre going leatherworking you need little materials from other professions plus most (id say roughly 75%) of the things you will be killing during your adventure to lvl 85 are skinnable. Goblins win.

Viciousness vs Time is money: Crit is usually the third most important stat (right after your main stat and your secondary stat i.e. for rogue Agi-AP-Crit) and now that even dots/hots can crit it is more important than ever. Time is money is not even a stat it is not haste you will just cast faster but it wont affect dots, energy, etc. So while useful, Worgen win this one.

Running wild vs Pack hobgoblin: Though decission, both are time savers, if you didnt know as soon as you ding 20/40 you get running wild as a worgen with its respective speed increase. But thats gonna save your time only once, while Gobber will be saving you from uncomfortable "oh &*!@z epic drops and im full" situations countless times. On the other hand is hard to tell from afar if the worgen is running wild or not (obviously not moving). So for BG this gives a slight advantage to worgen. Id say tie here.

Darkflight vs Rocket Jump/Barrage: Rocket jump is an instant life saver if youre a healer that got stuck in the middle of the action, people say its great for chasing too but in practice you have to time your jump pretty well if youre melee or you might end up in front of your prey. DF is great for kiting while casting instants (hunter anyone). However goblins have Barrage to increase their dps during raids, hell goblins are the ONLY class with 2 active racials. So even if DF is REALLY good, Goblins win.

Aberration vs Best Deals Anywhere: Both are very situational, for a new player saving every single copper piece on vendors means more money to spend on new spells/skills, however by late game you will probably be somewhere between revered and exalted with most of the main cities factions thus making the goblin racial less useful. Aberration on the other hand is good during a lot of raids, bosses love shadow damage, and on pvp it gets better, its good against shamans, druids, priests, warlocks, death knights, rogues and hunters. It is also the only passive resistance for more than one school of magic. Worgen win here.

Only after writing this have I found out that blizzard did a pretty good job on balancing the races: 2 wins for worgen, 2 for goblin, 1 tie.

Im not taking two forms into account here because its only a visual change with no effect during gameplay (I got a worgen, used it twice and it got old). Also if it comes to visuals its also a win for worgen, they got 2 unique emotes (/sniff and /roar) and they look like a zergling on crack when running wild.

But of course none of this matters in the end, its all about looks.

Comentario de Propanetank

I love their flirt: "If you play nicely, I might share my BONE with you" - lol

Comentario de 739699

where can i find class/race stat guide?

example lvl 1 hunter/worgen

str 23
agi 25
stam 21
int 16
spi 20
armor ?
hp 56

then level 2,3,4...85 increase to what?

for all class/race pls

Comentario de CrockettMaster

Worgen intro:

Led by their indomitable king, Genn Greymane, the proud citizens of Gilneas once stood with the Alliance against the vile, orcish horde that sought to conquer all of Lordaeron. Gilneas survived, but in the chaotic years following the Second War, the mighty kingdom drew ever inward. Distrustful of their former allies, the Gilneans erected a mighty wall at the borders of their land, closing off their nation and their hearts from an ever darkened world. Now many years later, as the seemingly unstoppable undead scourge marches across Lordaeron, human civilization once again teeters on the brink of destruction. As war and terror close in all around them, the citizens of Gilneas are faced with one terrible truth: their mighty wall cannot hold back the dead for much longer, and worse, rumors of a new threat have arisen within the kingdom's borders: of feral nightmare creatures that walk upright as men, but hunt and howl, like wolves.

Comentario de 781097

Still not as hairy as me.

Comentario de 602256

Where do you get your riding training when you hit level 20 for the Worgen?

You get it automatically for free.

Comentario de 35731

A thing i noticed while leveling and doing alot of dungeons is that Worgens tend to really mess up the mobs mindcontrols.

You spend half the duration trying to transform into a worgen, but will fail over and over.

Anyone else noticed?

Comentario de zomg5

Fun Fact

when you turn your worgen to human form and run around he/she still leave behind their worgen footprints

Comentario de 767364

It was great how they gave the Worgen to the Alliance. The Alliance has no other really aggressive races.

Comentario de 798383

fun fact: if you dance in either form and change, you dance and transform at the same time

Comentario de 226304

May be a coincidence, I'm not sure, but the female worgen wave is strikingly familiar to the wave of Vir Cotto. You know the one. Mister Morden, Babylon 5.

Comentario de 158727

As of 4.1 I no longer hear my Worgen roar when switching stances, using shouts, or any emote. :(

Comentario de 653985

These are the items that you get throughout the intro:

Cloaks and the top hat:
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare?items=55004:55017:55003:58255:54988

Leather Stuff:
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare?items=55009:55006:54975:55007:55015:55019:55002:55000:54997:54994:54981

Mail Stuff:
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare?items=55010:54976:54978:55008:55021:54984:55001:54998:54982:54993:54995

Cloth stuff:
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare?items=55005:55020:58216:54980:55018:54983:54999:54996:54992

Weapons:
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare?items=58217:54985:54986:66247:55016:54979:66439:52942:66660:66876:54991:54987:54989:54990:55011:55012:55013

Removed Bracers:
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare?items=55014&l=64

The stuff looks so cool, and my favorites are the cloth stuff, druid or not. Isalana Sepulchur's clothes

Comentario de 763117

So uber nerd question... Also everything below is to the best of my knowledge, If my information is wrong please correct me.

If the Alliance wouldn't allow the Forsaken to join (they were thought of as monsters even though Lorderan was an ally of Stormwind) how come they allow the Worgen to join? Honestly I don't really see a big difference between the Forsaken and Undead, I mean aside from one race being zombies and the other being werewolves, they were both (mostly) humans before what ever caused them to change into what they currently are now. I'm not QQing about the Alliance getting the "cooler" race; I freaking love Goblins, I'm just confused as to why the Forsaken, who although are pretty dark and twisted weren't aloud to join the Alliance, yet the Worgen, who are beastial and sometimes blinded by their instincts were able to join.

Again all my 'facts' are to the best of my knowledge and not neccesiarlly true, and if they are wrong please correct them in a comment.

Comentario de dbfblackbull

To all people starting a worgen!

If you care about leveling proffessionses early in the game, make sure to do a /target for Jack "All-Trades" Derrington <Profession Trainer>.

This NPC can teach you all proffessions, but he does not show up if u track for proffessionse trainers. So make sure to speak to him and get what proffessions you want :)

Comentario de Vrominelli

Worgen women do the dance from Pokerface by Lady Gaga. (can't believe no one said it in almost 300 comments)
And you know what? I wouldn't put it past worgen women to wear dresses made of meat like Gaga did...

Comentario de Camundongo

Is it just me or, reputation wise, do Goblins have it easier? I only say this because Goblins characters get led through Azshara, which is full of Bilgewater Cartel faction NPCs, up until level 20ish, as opposed to Darkshore where Worgen get led through, which is mostly filled with Darnassus faction NPCs, which is pain if you're going for the faction bags or cloaks.

I know it's not a big difference, but it still seems kinda wierd and annoying that Blizzard would have that disparity between the two races.

At least it's not as bad as being a Draenei, I guess.

Comentario de 851736

Worgen + top hat = BEAST

Comentario de 712374

A warning for all future Worgen, there aren't any mailboxes in Gilneas after the starting zone town Duskhaven, next time you'll be able to use a mailbox is in Darnassus at level 14-16. So if you want to use Heirloom Gear for example remember to send them to your character straight away.

There also aren't any vendors who sell the Virtuoso Inking Set for Scribes ( used in Inscription) in Gilneas either.

Comentario de BethofHearts

Fair warning. Attacking and killing a Worgen in PvP will cause you to suffer future harassment at the hands of PETA.

Comentario de ivo0119

Ouch, ouch, this dissapointed me.... Female worgen's dance is Lady Gaga's poker face...
When i saw it i was like "I dont want to live on this planet anymore"....

Comentario de 956081

Cannot stand the the random sniffing. It drives me insane. Go into the AH filled with a few worgen hunters with cats as their pets and just try not to shoot yourself!

Comentario de guatafu

If you're going to play a male worgen because they look cool then make sure you disable the cloak (Interface->Display), most weapons that sheath on the back will clip through it.

Comentario de 994498

This is one of the races that a lot of the classes could fit into the lore. Shaman is probably the only one that wouldn't really fit in. If I'm wrong please tell me.

Comentario de 573576

How come worgen don't have a tail? I think a tail graphic should be added something that looks something along the lines of a fox tail or an actual wold tail dranie get one why not the worgen? Would look really neat in running wild and fighting animations I think. Anyone else think so?

Comentario de Wolfgenerator

I think in MoP they should add a language for worgens: Gilnean

Example:
Shryresgfd says: I thank ye shod ha've sum taim t' yeself. Ye've bin werkin' hard, ye dezer've a res'.

Isn't it hard to understand?

Comentario de Wolfgenerator

Also: How to escape Worgen Starting Zone!

1: Make a worgen. 2: Delete your hearthstone 3: go to the southwest corner of merchant square. 4: Do "Teleport to Graveyard" in the Stuck section of the help window. 5: rez at the cathedral. 6: Go east behind the wall, then go under the bridge and into northgate woods. (I think that's what it's called :P) 7: Go to the lighthouse and swim around that big spike in the water (Getting around the invisible walls) 8: Swim to the unknown zone 9: Go northeast till you see that white strip on the map, it's a hole, fall in. 10: Go to the edge of that second layer until you leave general and localdefense. 11: Do the stuck thing again, then do /camp and at 1 second release spirit. 12: Log back in 13: If you didn't get to westfall try again. 14: If you got to westfall rez and congrats! You just escaped from gilneas with all the racials :)

I did not figure this out myself! I found it on youtube. :P

This way is still reliable in 4.3.4.

Huargen

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