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Comentario de Arador

Darkmantle is a very nice middle ground between your Tier 0 and your Tier 1 set - hence the moniker Tier 0.5

Comentario de 11609

Nice set..!

Comentario de Thottbot

DM

str: 57
stam: 97
agi: 184
armor: 1047 (+200)

% hit: 2
% crit: 1
+ atp: 40
+ 8 to all ress
proc on melee to restore 35 energy (probably around 2-5%)
+ 200 armor
Increase stealth

NS

str: 50
stam: 134
agi: 189
armor: 1152
Fire res: 31
Shadow res: 24

% hit: 2
% crit: 5
Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish ability by 30 sec
Increases your maximum Energy by 10
Heals the rogue for 500 when Vanish is performed

Not easy to tell really, i got full NS on my rogue, but i still have SC in bank, quests are going to be done asap to convert them to DM..

DM i would take for solo work, pvp maybe

NS in group work i guess.. or only for instances:P

Anyways the stats are now up!

Comentario de Thottbot

the order is
1. bracers
2. belt and gloves
3. shoulders legs and boots
4. helm and chest

Comentario de Thottbot

Here's the breakdown....

SHADOWCRAFT
Armor: 978
Strength: 43
Agility: 157
Stamina: 87
Spirit: 36
Durability: 450
Equip Bonuses: None
Set Bonuses:
2 Pieces = +200 armor
4 Pieces = +40 Attack Power
6 Pieces = Class specific bonus
8 Pieces = +8 to all resistances

DARKMANTLE
Armor: 1047
Strength: 57
Agility: 184
Stamina: 97
Spirit: 0
Durability: 495
Set Bonuses:
Cap = +1% Crit
Tunic = +2% Hit
Belt = Inc. stealth level
Set Bonuses:
2 Pieces = +8 resistances
4 Pieces = Class specific bonus
6 Pieces = +40 Attack Power
8 Pieces = +200 Armor

Upgrading from Shadowcraft to Darkmantle provides the following:
--69 more Armor
--14 more Strength (14 more AP for Rogues)
--27 more Agility (27 mor AP - almost 2% Dodge and 1% crit)
--10 more Stamina (100 more HP)
--36 LESS Spiri
--45 more Durability
--41 more Attack Power for Rogues from the greater Str and Agi (not too shabby when also combined w/ the new +40 AP set bonus - that's 81 more AP than the original Shadowcraft)

Side Note - I appreciate Blizz's work w/ the set bonuses on these new/updated armor sets...how you gain the set bonus back soon after losing it as the set bonuses from SC to DM are reveresed...that's a nice lil' bonus for everyone swapping out there armor.

So for those of us who are casual gamers and haven't got the time to grind in MC for Nightslayer, this is a vialble set. Add a few choice enchants to this set (+Agi to gloves and boots - +4 to all stats on chest - get 2 librams for +AGI to head and legs and this set becomes almost as good as Nightslayer, but with lesser set bonuses. For casual gamers, that's a nice upgrade, and can easily be attained through regular questing....not 40 man raid group farming.

Comentario de Thottbot

http://www.wowwiki.com/Tier_0.5 is a great resource for these quests. It lists all the quest givers, items needed, quests, etc... It is a work in progress since people still haven't finished all the quests but it is up to part 4. People will update it with latest and greatest info as it is acquired.

Comentario de Thottbot

I looks realy nice, but i wonder how much it all wil cost total ? 20g for the first item, i think i will increase with each item, so you will be maybe spebd a total of 200g for the items and it isn`t that much better then SC !

Comentario de Thottbot

I started this questline today, and are allready shocked about the time and money effort I've put into this so far, and I just have my bracers upgraded!

I bought the SC bracers of AH since I cba to grind instances for them. Probably gonna buy the belt and gloves too.

So far, I've built the Ectoplasmic Distiller, and have spent roughly 160g+, and even had the most expensive materials in my bank!

Rumours say that the total cost of upgrading from SC to DM is 600g-800g, depending on server prices. If you are going to do this solo, it takes both time and a hell of a lot grinding/earning money if you're not ebaying.

As for the 45 min strat baron run, I'm lucky enough to know a few peeps that would lend me a hand, but that's me.

How about trying to pull that of with a random group? Cant really see that happening at all.

Comentario de Thottbot

http://functional-pc.com/fulldm.jpg

Comentario de Thottbot

Did 45 min run last night with my guild. Easy.
we had all 60's:
1 warrior
2 rogue's
1 paladin (me)
1 priest
Tactic is easy: Go for DPS and never stop. We didn't loot but u can since we had time enough.
First kill the spider, then the banshee, then the humanoid. That way u can skip most mobs. Be sure to pull the next group before the previous one is down. After each of the three bosses u got just enough time to take a mana drink while the rest starts pulling again.
After the humanoid things will get fun: all drink a swiftness potion (they should be easy to get), rogue's don't of course. Then from the humanoid boss ALL RUN PAST THE GATE (where the venom belchers are and that closes after u pull the first 1. Once u pass it, the paladin has to DI (divine intervention) the priest (or druid). All die and the priest will rezz. This way we skipped at least 6 mobs.
The rest should be easy since it's the normal way to do a baron run.

Keep in mind that u need a paladin for this that knows how to use DI and some swiftness potions. Other tip, get a enchanter to join since u can't take time to loot bosses. Boss drops every1 passes, the enchanter greeds and if some1 needs they just need. After the run the enchanter can DE all and every1 can roll for that.

last but not least, to let u know how easy it was:
45 minutes-spider-banshee- WE WHIPED! -humanoid-rammstein-baron ==> 5 minutes left (so we did it in 40 minutes with a whipe!)
DON'T GIVE UP IF U WHIPE, IT'S STILL POSSIBLE!

Punica, 60 paladin, Dunemaul server,
Guild Ethereal Crusader

Comentario de Thottbot

Do the partial set bonuses only work if you are wearing partial SC?

If not, then could you use 4 pieces of DM along with 3 pieces of Stormshroud and have 2 chances for the energy proc? It seems nice in theory. Probably too nice?

Comentario de Thottbot

This is a note to those interested in making it quicker. It requires a healer and a Warlock or Druid battle rez. After the last zig (pally boss), SS the healer, pop swiftness potions and run like hell to the last gate. Rez up and fight the aboms. This will skip at least 4-5 groups of mobs. We did it and had 15 minutes to kill Ramstein, skellies etc. Hope that helps

Comentario de Thottbot

You wish, think BRD hounds. You will not get by.

Comentario de Thottbot

I think this is the High-End Rogue set for Lone Rogues (unguilded notfr plyrs)(like me)
But 600g-800g! & ...
GL !

Comentario de Thottbot

I deleted my last post because it was long and it boiled down to the following points:
1. DM not worth the effort. Set bonuses are the same as SC. Set bonuses are actually worse since the good stats are at the wrong end. That chance to add energy happens about once per three fights. Bonus in stats is minimal.
2. SC should be green. SC is not the best equipment a casual gamer can get. Most blue items are better.
3. The upgrade is 20+ hours of un-fun farming and running around. Once you�re done, you will not be anymore entertained by the game.
4. If you are a casual gamer like me (less than 8hours a week) devote your time to the NS set. It doesn't take much longer than DM. You'll want to upgrade to NS immediately following the last DM piece you get anyways.

I look at it like a form of entertainment and if I'm not entertained I'm wasting my money.

Possible solutions to what I see as a problem:
1. Make the SC and DM set better.
2. Make the upgrade more entertaining while keeping it 'difficult'. Something that is difficult is completely different than something time consuming and remedial (farming). One possibly would require the player to duel the quest giver one on one. The quest giver would of course be hard to kill and matched to the classes weaknesses. Then sent the player on a quest that challenges the class talents�in the rogues case stealth run�pickpocket items with hound patrols roaming and traps to detect and disarm (It would be nice to actually use that skill). All solo.

I'm sure someone will argue with me, but hey...it's just my opinion. If you have a better idea or reason to argue please at least post your reasons instead of the ol�:
U SUX BTW. REROLL A HUNTER! L8TR NOOB!

Thanks for spending the time reading my complaint.

Comentario de Thottbot

Neva fear!
They buffed the PvP gear!
lol. Seriously, i like the DM gear, the 2/8 set bonus of +8 to all resists is sick, thats why I'm wearing just the bracers and gloves. (That, and the fact that i neva really collected SC bak in the day). Just go for a balance, you neva need to choose 8/8 of this set, or 8/8 of that. Just get as many good items without being greedy, and god sakes dont rush it. Rogues do fine against 8/8 Tier 2 ppl with just having a handful of epics, we prolly benefited the most from the Tier .5 upgrades.
ps. Disarm traps is used in BWL for one boss. *cough* Not the boss himself ... but its used LOL. I dont know if you can pick pocket teh epix tho. hehe

Comentario de Thottbot

I've loved this set. Our guild has grown and I've worn this armor for a bit now and it has been a big help.

I've done what I could to boost it with enchants, put the ZG enchant on the legs, +7 Str to bracers, +3 to stats on the chest, +7 agility on gloves and for fun the minor speed enchant on boots. I'm going to try to get another zg enchant for the head and when I get exalted that ZG enchant to shoulders.

I didn't go for stamina because I like to play my rogue for max damage.

However, I've started switching out items for raid. I currently put on the Madcap shoulders and the Boots of the vanguard from AQ20. Though I'll switch the full DM set back on when I'm soloing for dodge chance increase.

Now that we are in MC and will be doing Ony, I'm noticing how the improvements to that gear is not a huge boost. Just making me realize how good this set is. And since I'm the only rogue with the gear I'm planning on letting other rogues get their NS stuff first and I'll only be aiming for the BF hood and leggings when we down rag. Eventually I'll collect 5 pieces of NS, but I don't want to bother much cause for me the difference between NS and BF is PvP vs PvE. Though an upgrade is an upgrade.

I'm also glad that the tier 3 armor will have an +energy set bonus. Because that does wonders for me now. I'm not looking forward to wearing newer armor with out that bonus lol I can count on my hand how many times I've popped a thistle tea in the last 2 months.

Comentario de Thottbot

The SC/DM sets are good, well-balanced sets for rogues. Sure, the stats are not as good as the T1+ sets, but they are good nonetheless. The AGI and STR bonuses in conjunction with the +40 AP help make this set put out some respectable DPS, especially with the new rogue talent tree (Subtlety +15% Agi). Also, the +35 energy proc is helpful in a way that can not be measued. It procs often, I'd say about once every 20 hits or so, and helps put out that 5 dotted Eviscerate that much quicker, or helps you get in another Sinister Strike 5 seconds before you were expecting it. The quests to upgrade to this set are a bit expensive, but they are also challenging and fun.

DM is decent, well-rounded armor. Combine it with some +AP/STA/crit trinkets and jewelry and you have a great set for PVP or PVE (though a bit more stamina would make it much better for PVP).

Would I like to upgrade to T1/T2?- of course. They ARE better sets. Unfortunately, I don't have time to run MC/BW etc... Let alone put up w/all the bs that goes along with belonging to a serious guild that would run these instances regularly and succesfully. To boot, there is a lot of competition out there for the T1+ sets. Once you've got the full SC set, you can get this set at your own pace, without worrying about ninjas or someone outbidding you on the T1+ items.
My only complaint about this set is how it looks. Blizzard could of put a bit more effort into it. They just changed the color of the SC armor and made it glow in certain areas (seems a bit counter-productive for a rogue).
I've got 3/8 right now and am working on the 45min. baron run. can't wait to get the boots, pants and shoulders.

Helpful suggestion: get an extra pair of SC bracers so you can still get the 6piece energy proc bonus once you get the DM gloves and belt.

Comentario de Faaayaaa

4P is actually bis for early P5.

Best pieces to wear being :

- Helm
- Shoulders
- Chest
- Boots

You can adapt this when you have crappy gear on the other slots, but assuming you have a full bis P4 gear, this is the move (even with BotSF and T2 chest, unfortunately).

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Amadura Mantoscuro

Amadura Mantoscuro es el Set de mazmorra 2. Contiene 8 piezas. Tiene bonificaciones de conjunto al reunir 2, 4, 6, y 8 piezas.

	Cinturón Mantoscuro (1)
	Botas Mantoscuro (1)
	Brazales Mantoscuro (1)
	Capa Mantoscuro (1)
	Guantes Mantoscuro (1)
	Pantalones Mantoscuro (1)
	Bufas Mantoscuro (1)
	Túnica Mantoscuro (1)

Bonificación de conjunto

Tener puestos mas objetos de este conjunto le aplicará una bonificación a tu personaje.

2 piezas: +8 p. de todas las resistencias.
4 piezas: Probabilidad en ataque cuerpo a cuerpo de recuperar 35 p. de energía.
6 piezas: +40 p. de poder de ataque.
8 piezas: +200 p. de armadura.

Amadura Mantoscuro

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