Can Saurfang hurry up and off her already? Either that or make Sylvanas more than just evil, there's no depth to her character anymore.
R.I.P Zelling.One of the only good things about BFAs writing.
rip zelling boi, but this is what you get for helping the horde.
So many Horde leader all in one place out in the open, How did the SI:7 not know about this and take advantage?
I mean, Baine did indeed betray the Horde and what everyone has to say is a good indicator on how diverse the opinions on Sylvanas are. Might not go the Garrosh way after all. Still, Baine is of course right. Sylvanas herself suffered from the mindcontrol of the Lichking, which is why she put laws in place for her people, all these years ago. Free will is the most important right of every forsaken and she actually betrays her own culture that she herself shaped.
They’re in such a no-win situation with the horde story.Either there’s this huge “Greater good” swerve that comes out of left field and validates players backing an objectively evil character while simultaneously mandating a closet of tinfoil hats for WoW players in perpetuity because “OH IT’S ON” for dark conspiracy theories for what should be a straightforward pulp fantasy game that leans into poop quests and pop culture references thus totally leaving its lane by going all game of thrones.Or...She’s been the bad guy, intended to be the bad guy, “why did you ever believe in her she’s the bad guy” all along. And the garrosh 2.0 torches and pitchforks never go away, and they will never be able to pull off “wait and see, we promise this is going somewhere good” again.I get it. They have to set up the future. They have to future proof the game in case of receding relevance as a genre so the faction wall needs a hole in it so we can be one singular playerbase. This is the kind of story that gets us there, but it’s just so painful to live through, and they are taking up waaay too much time in an uncomfortable present to set up a likely much more fun future. I can’t wait until this “resolution” to the faction conflict is behind us.I’m enjoying the game as a game, I’m lucky that my interests aren’t impacted by the complaints most people have with the gameplay right now, but if I didn’t have that.... man, I don’t know. They need to get to the good stuff (Azshara, old gods, cosmic high concept “6 seats at the high table” type planar stuff) as soon as possible!
stop acting like this is interesting if they dethrone sylvanas they will lose every last fan they had >_> they already threw baine and saurfang under the bus...so whose left thats worth a damn? oh right lor themar but he owes his life of him and his people to her ...so that would be a betrayel worse then death itself ..... she died protecting his entire race so they should realize shes not fighting for her own power and a racist war...shes fighting so the horde can thrive ....stop talking like this is a good thing they are doing -_-
Thank god. I was annoyed of Baine.
Having the horde kill off sylvanas is the only way to salvage this story, let's just hope blizz have the guts to do it, they probably won't but one can hope.
My main issue with all of this is how.. almost awkward it is to watch all these various races and npcs just stand in silence as things unfold. You are telling me no one else would agree with bane even if it meant trying to stand up to the dark lady? Even the player character would have stepped in to say something or do something depending on who you sided with I would assume.. make it lead into some choice here even if you get thrown in a cell for a little while and have to escape or something. Heck anything would have made this less painful to watch then just all these races accepting what she was doing. =/