Most likely the pupil will be death hunter Moorgoth, dead and raised as a dark ranger, to fufill their little romance :D
I hope this isn't a hint on the next hero class. I would like a CASTER hero class next.
Looks like my hopes of being able to join the Scarlet Crusade further diminished by this questline.
Actually the Saurfang situation makes for an excellent example of a Patriot versus a Nationalist.A Patriot believe in the ideal version of his culture. A Patriot demonstrates that it is possible to be Disobedient without being Disloyal. A Protestor is not a Traitor because being a Patriot means giving up the comfort his nation provides to save it from mistakes it makes and if a Patriot has to protest he does.An Nationalist believes in what his nation can do for him and doesn't care about what it does to anyone else -that's what "my nation right or wrong" means. He takes what it gives as long as it suits his needs and in exchange he obeys. A Nationalist believes everyone who isn't like him is the enemy and that this enemy can be found everywhere. When the Leader decides there's an enemy to attack the Nationalist accepts that the Leader's enemy is also his enemy.This is Saurfang's dilemma. He loves the Horde and in the past loving the Horde meant obeying it. This has changed. The new Warchief is, kind of like Garrosh, a magnification of what happens when a society of obedience get the wrong leader and that this is what happens when you don't have a succession principle.And this is all important.How does the new Warchief get selected? Is it by vote? Obvious not. Is the title hereditary? Nope. Is it a dynasty, power held be a clan? Nuh-uh as even Garrosh wasn't a Frostwolf, he was Warsong clan.Why Vol'Jin? Because he was the best candidate; Baine's too green, the BElves weren't trusted enough, Galliwix is untrustworthy (and might not want to lead) and oh right Sylvanas was also untrustworthy thanks to things like the Wrathgate Betrayal and (quoting Thage): "committing genocide, enslaving people who had nothing to do with the faction war (TWICE!), corrupting local furbolg tribes, and a long history of experimenting both on captives and her own people (in Arthas, she even reflects that she doesn't honestly care whether or not the Forsaken test subjects are really criminals or not). The straw that broke the camel's back was Horde troops being slaughtered with the plague and their skeletons risen by Sylvanas to be used as mindless cannon fodder."lolAhem. Vol'Jin is trusted by Thrall and Thrall's retiring (lol Metzen). Hence, Warchief Vol'Jin.So Why Sylvanas? Because she was the most powerful leader left and in the face of the threat of the Legion there wasn't time to be divisive.... and maybe also because there was no succession principle. (Fascists always find "exceptional circumstances" btw.)So what does a Patriot do? He throws off his pauldrons and surrenders in protest. He can battle the Sentinels righteously because the Sentinels are an army and when your enemy takes up arms you have to fight them. But when it's time to burn their homes and exterminate their children, when the soldiers you train and command are cold-bloodedly murdered by your leader it's the Nationalist who cheers and the Patriot that despairs.Because the Nationalist believes in that fascist fable about a pure and innocent people who can only be wronged by a world that envies them and a Patriot knows that you always answer, if only to yourself, for everything you do and he wants as little evil on his conscience as he can manage. The evil he does is the evil his children atone for.Hence lesson of Saurfang the Patriot and whatisname ...that childish idiot ..uh ...oh, Blightcaller the Nationalist. That's the name, lol.
(actually tbh I think Blightcaller is authentically loyal to Sylvanas. She might be the only person in existence who understands like he does what it's like to hate the person they used to be. Well, that's how I think he sees the situation. Judging from how she treats him Sylvanas considers Blightcaller as completely expendable as any drooling Abomination.)
Problem with evaluation someone action's by motivation is that motivations are worth nothing when compared to actions. Sylvanas starts this war. She states outright that she intends to start a war. That she claims to do it to protect the Horde means essentially nothing. Motivations have worth in determining what someone is likely to do in the future, but reading Sylvanas this means: "she'll do anything to protect the Horde -like she always said she would with the Forsaken- and if that means burning Azeroth to it's bedrock that's on the list. Kind of like cooking up a plague that destroys the living and the dead. Conclusion: Sylvanas must be stopped."Illidan's whitewashing is personally repugnant because again we're assured of the all the good things Illidan meant to do while watching him do evil. Illidan's a bastard, but he's a fan favorite bastard. So let's watch him betray and kill allies again.Ah, but there's the trap: the assumption that "the Horde failing" means it gets destroyed. Not that it could consolidate and counter-attack, not that losing UC wouldn't have been automatically a terrible disaster (we now know it was so disposable Sylvanas destroyed it), not that a single victory over the point closest to Stormwind and Ironforge -the Alliance's strongest cities- no no no. The trap is there is only one outcome and that outcome is extermination. The Alliance does a lot of things wrong but so far it doesn't exterminate anyone....even those goddamn Frostmane trolls are still around and they're only found in goddamn Dun Morogh.Jaina...Jaina is dumb. I'm sick of Jaina. I don't care about Jaina. I think she's supposed to be dynamic, really she's just pathetic and impotent. I think Jaina's supposed to be tragic (intends good but isn't ruthless) but in practice she's irritatingly weak and unimportant. I think this is setup to her being removed from active duty by death (like Tyrande!) or by ending up as the queen. Jaina is also largely absent from the Alliance side of BfA; at least Princess Trollkanda's near the base.Ok, you're right about Saurfang. I'm falling into the trap of wanting to evaluate him backwards ie how he ends versus how he starts. Sure, he's all gung-ho when it begins because that's who he is. The Horde calls, he answers.(And I wish he'd killed Malfurion. Goddamn Malf is useless; talking to him after finishing "evacuating Teldrassil" and hearing him say, "this isn't so bad, we'll be fine you'll see" made me angry on a primal level. Malf is worthless.)But leaving the Horde isn't automatically betraying it. That's the same trap as in the UC example: there is only one definition of defeat and that is de facto the worst one. To lose anything is to lose everything.Dunno who you mean, mate. Anduin?The ground-truth facts are that Sylvanas started the war. It's what she says, it what she does. Does that make Baine "the good guy?" I don't know but we examine him like Saurfang the answer is no. Baine obeys. Maybe he gets arrested because he's formenting discontent, I didn't watch the video, I avoid stupid and discussions of WoW lore are almost always better than the actual lore.And this my friend is the era of "moral grayness." Only the actively evil have clarity and everyone else is confused and stupid. Everything is miserable, wars grind on without meaning or value, and the loot randomly changes your class. This is why I call Battle For Azeroth miserly (because it promises much and delivers little), miserable (because "moral grayness" and god-awful swings in tone) and unpleasant (because there's something to make everyone unhappy; even the Nationalists get salty when the Troll King -who's not part of their faction- dies AND Azerite mechanics LOLSORANDOM your play style).I don't think you're cynical as a cynic knows the truth but doesn't care about it. I think you're unhappy because you care and so much of what you care about has been so deliberately, cynically degraded and debased. BfA has come to strip the wonder from Azeroth and replace it with grind. Grinding wars, grinding rep, grinding gear, and grinding down our souls.In the future BfA is going to be remembered as the worst version of Cataclysm, "remember that time they wrecked everything and it sucked? Now we don't even think about it because at least it's behind us. And Queen Maiev isn't so bad; at least she does stuff unlike whatsername you farm for transmogs and rep."
I like the argument of "Alliance didn't genocide orcs because they aren't monsters"...... Yeah, no. They didn't because it would make easy workers, that you don't have to pay. Alliance aren't "that" good.
So... I'm the only person thinking it could be Derek Proudmoore with his memory mostly altered being trained as a Dark Ranger to go and slaughter his family in Boralus?
This is kinda crazy. So many questions, and flat out no answers. Lol. Great job with this coverage!