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Classic WoW - Liveblog of the Classic WoW Dev Team AMA on /r/ClassicWoW

publicado 20/08/2019 a las 11:59 por Squishei

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Comentario de Sammyx3 Thanks for this! Kind of hard to get an overview over there with all the comments. Comentario de RichardMNixon They really glossed over the Onyxia loot trick. They didn't address whether or not Classic matches Vanilla, they just said that it would not be possible. Comentario de Azumane Man even tho im not able to play at Launch im still looking forward to play Classic. This AMA made tt even worse ^^ Comentario de Acccattone They really glossed over the Onyxia loot trick. They didn't address whether or not Classic matches Vanilla, they just said that it would not be possible.\r
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Possible in Vanilla, not possible in Classic. What's left to address? Comentario de rezzyk I am definitely curious on the future plans. I will try Classic but I don't know if I want to do the vanilla experience again. HOWEVER, if they eventually make it to Wrath, oh man. Just leave me there forever. But do I want to be starting Wrath as an account from scratch? Ehh.

I think they have three options:

1) Upgrade the Classic servers to the next expansion in line (I think this is the most unlikely option because some people want the Vanilla experience, and putting it in for 2-3 years and then upgrading defeats that)
2) Create new servers for other expansions and force players to start from scratch on those.
3) Create new servers for other expansions and allow account\/character migrations from the Classic servers.

On a separate note, I know it's not the "Vanilla" experience, but I kinda wish Blizz put Achievements in Classic. One of the worst parts of achievements being added at the end of BC was backtracking to do ones that you technically would have complete if they were in the game from the start. But then again maybe that backtracking is part of the experience people like. Comentario de omedon666 I am definitely curious on the future plans. I will try Classic but I don't know if I want to do the vanilla experience again. HOWEVER, if they eventually make it to Wrath, oh man. Just leave me there forever. But do I want to be starting Wrath as an account from scratch? Ehh.

I think they have three options:

1) Upgrade the Classic servers to the next expansion in line (I think this is the most unlikely option because some people want the Vanilla experience, and putting it in for 2-3 years and then upgrading defeats that)
2) Create new servers for other expansions and force players to start from scratch on those.
3) Create new servers for other expansions and allow account\/character migrations from the Classic servers.

On a separate note, I know it's not the "Vanilla" experience, but I kinda wish Blizz put Achievements in Classic. One of the worst parts of achievements being added at the end of BC was backtracking to do ones that you technically would have complete if they were in the game from the start. But then again maybe that backtracking is part of the experience people like.

I fully expect classic to remain at its final phase forever, as "a game with an end," that will remain online to hang out in. The classic Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms are the only landmasses we cannot access in "retail" and that, to me, is what "obligates" the existence of classic, and it doesn't apply to any other expansion. The burning crusade landmasses are alive and well in the modern game, as a passing through leveling experience available to be experienced whenever one likes. Hell, it'll even be replayable to an extent in 8.2.5!

If content locusts eat up all of classic in a matter of months... that's their choice.

Again, that's just how I see them proceeding, and is just my opinion. Comentario de Cipherrr We've done most of the hard work by bringing back 1.12 so progressing to Burning Crusade would be a lot easier for us. Our plan is to identify everything we need to do should we ever decide to go this route. We want to be sensitive to the desires of our players. Some may want BC and some may not. We'll be following the Classic community closely to help determine what our next steps should be.\r
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Oh man, TBC is definitely happening. Comentario de PveManno Do people REALLY need them to explicitly say NO YOU CAN'T TRADE GOLD CROSS GAME? Like what? It says it's subject to their terms of service. You know what that means? It's not allowed. ToS violations lead to bans. Get it? It also mentions you can't do it from 3rd party. If you need to ask for specific exclusions of something you're trying, just don't do it. Comentario de Lolus Do people REALLY need them to explicitly say NO YOU CAN'T TRADE GOLD CROSS GAME? Like what? It says it's subject to their terms of service. You know what that means? It's not allowed. ToS violations lead to bans. Get it? It also mentions you can't do it from 3rd party. If you need to ask for specific exclusions of something you're trying, just don't do it.

It will just be outsourced. Comentario de RichardMNixon They really glossed over the Onyxia loot trick. They didn't address whether or not Classic matches Vanilla, they just said that it would not be possible.\r
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Possible in Vanilla, not possible in Classic. What's left to address?\r
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If you re-read the post, they never confirm if it exited in Vanilla. The OP said some pservers had that functionality. If it truly worked that way in Vanilla, then #somechanges Comentario de Kanariya They really glossed over the Onyxia loot trick. They didn't address whether or not Classic matches Vanilla, they just said that it would not be possible.\r
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Possible in Vanilla, not possible in Classic. What's left to address?\r
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If you re-read the post, they never confirm if it exited in Vanilla. The OP said some pservers had that functionality. If it truly worked that way in Vanilla, then #somechanges\r
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If it truly worked that way in Vanilla, then it would have been considered an exploit and it should have been patched back then. They already said they're not re-creating any bugs or exploits from Vanilla. Comentario de Shamainy Holidays\r
As this and other holiday events are quite soon from now (like 1-2 months), can we expect it being live with old functionalities?\r
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rick or Treat! Yes, because we're based on patch 1.12's data, holidays will play out as day did during that patch. So we look forward to spooky treats and happy haunts this October!\r
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You forgot a "T" in trick or treat :o Comentario de Snakeslick Wow that was cool! I'm so happy to see all of this happening. When one of the developers mentioned "Next week", I honestly might have shed a tear. :'D Comentario de JaceDraccus Holidays\r
As this and other holiday events are quite soon from now (like 1-2 months), can we expect it being live with old functionalities?\r
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rick or Treat! Yes, because we're based on patch 1.12's data, holidays will play out as day did during that patch. So we look forward to spooky treats and happy haunts this October!\r
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You forgot a "T" in trick or treat :o\r
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That's the trick. Comentario de KnuteOle We've done most of the hard work by bringing back 1.12 so progressing to Burning Crusade would be a lot easier for us. Our plan is to identify everything we need to do should we ever decide to go this route. We want to be sensitive to the desires of our players. Some may want BC and some may not. We'll be following the Classic community closely to help determine what our next steps should be.\r
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Oh man, TBC is definitely happening.\r
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I'm torn on this, personally.\r
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On the one hand, I'd love for BC to come next, and eventually Wrath (and end there). However, BC also introduced flying, which means opening up that whole can of worms again. Plus, as soon as BC is announced officially (if it is), it'd make the Classic content moot again--people will wait until BC to progress their character. That's the problem with WoW expansions--they add content, but at the expense of older content that people are still playing.\r
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Perhaps they'll introduce a way to keep Classic relevant AND have BC--such as, allowing people to copy their level 60 character to a new BC realm, while keeping a copy of that character in Classic. That'd give people the option of playing Classic only, or moving on. Or do both, since they'll have a character in each.\r
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We'll see. Comentario de NotAWoWAcctAdmin Well, Blizzard, to be honest, you did far above my expectations. Very far above. Thank you so much. \r
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However, there are still a few QQ's:\r
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For me, some of the fun of clearing a dungeon is discovering the loot as you go, but for those who want more information: the drop tables are mostly from 1.12.\r
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This is against the "Itemization in Classic" post that appeared early this year.\r
So, apart from relics, there won\u00b4t be any new items added to MC loot table in later phases?\r
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What we do have control over is ensuring that World of Warcraft Classic matches as closely as possible to the original 1.12. data.\r
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yeah, "Authentic Private Server experience". Wish I played on them...\r
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Additionally, in my opinion, layering should be restricted to level 1-30 zones - Stranglethorn Vale, due to the Arena Master, should be the first zone to be excluded.\r
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And, most importantly, the answers about gold selling are too vague. Seems like anti-spam and anti-bot will be the only mechanics to prevent it - there will not be anything to prevent the gold transfers themselves. I am greatly disappointed with that. Comentario de blupache Do people REALLY need them to explicitly say NO YOU CAN'T TRADE GOLD CROSS GAME? Like what? It says it's subject to their terms of service. You know what that means? It's not allowed. ToS violations lead to bans. Get it? It also mentions you can't do it from 3rd party. If you need to ask for specific exclusions of something you're trying, just don't do it.\r
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I don't honestly think it is that obvious. They're both versions of warcraft, they're on the same license. I don't like the idea, but I don't like carry sales either & Bliz is just fine with those.\r
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And have you ever known anyone to actually read the ToS? I'm not even clear if it's still called ToS or it's the same as the Terms of Use. I went looking for it out of curiosity and searching the Blizz website returned nothing. There're a bunch of references to it in the support section, but no actual ToS document. There's an EULA, which is mostly out-of-game legalese, but nothing in the legal section for Warcraft specifically plus nothing called a ToS. Comentario de Comixfan Holidays\r
As this and other holiday events are quite soon from now (like 1-2 months), can we expect it being live with old functionalities?\r
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rick or Treat! Yes, because we're based on patch 1.12's data, holidays will play out as day did during that patch. So we look forward to spooky treats and happy haunts this October!\r
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You forgot a "T" in trick or treat :o\r
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That's the trick.\r
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Or is it the rick? ;) Comentario de beastsdruid The BEST option would be to allow the classic players to transfer their characters to BC, WotLK servers while still keeping their characters in Classic. :) Comentario de Kendrubbin God, please don't move on to TBC. TBC had a terrible story, introduced resilience, and I'd rather Classic branch off into its own thing with horizontal progress.

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