Lol Tyrande victim shames Calia for being undead, while Calia herself was a victim of Sylvanas and never had any dealings with the Forsaken, outside of that meeting that ended in her Death. That Tree Hugger will be the next crazy *!@#$ im calling it!
I don't think something so light-based should lead the otherwise dark gothic forsaken. Its a huge clash with their core identity. I also don't like how it doesn't feel like she can relate to the forsaken. She was raised undead under completely different circumstances. She was brought back to open arms, whereas many forsaken were rejected.Lillian just seems much more suitable to me. She's experienced the worst of what it means to be "forsaken" in the short time she's been around for. Yet I do suspect Calia will have a big role, whether she's leader of the forsaken or not.
Tyrande is 10k years old and acts like a stupid reckless child, yeah such a realistic character development.
She can be *a* leader of the Forsaken without being *the* leader of the Forsaken.
It'll probably playout in the pre-patch event.
The other speculation, of course, is that the Alliance will get their own undead faction to be led by Calia and Proudmoore. I find this far more likely than Calia and her friend Derek suddenly running Undercity. Why she thinks she can suddenly wander in and gain the loyalty of the Forsaken is beyond me. Lilian Voss is suffering a moment of weakness.
If forsaken get screwed with Calia I am never playing my forsaken again.NO MEANS NO
I don't really have a horse in this race, as I'm strongly leaning against playing Shadowlands at this point for too many other reasons. I'm mostly putting this here as food for thought.Those who are calling for Lillian Voss to be the new Forsaken ruler have forgotten/didn't know that she is a member of The Uncrowned. They specifically shun direct action, preferring to act "from the shadows." I originally gave thought to her being suitable for the leadership, but upon reflection I don't believe it would suit her at this moment of her story. Maybe further along, after more experience, she will grow into more of a leader; but, for now, I consider her place to be still in the shadows.I do like the idea of Calia acting as a neutral locus point, with Lillian acting as an advisor to the Horde, and Derek as an intercessory with Anduin. Note I said "intercessory." Derek's position would be more tenuous than Lillian's in this triangle. Anduin may be content enough to listen to him, but the remainder of the Alliance may be less likely to look all the way to his last name, ignoring that he is now Forsaken. It would definitely be interesting to see how this arrangement would work out...but there is probably too much nuance for Blizzard's current crew to pull off.
Sylvanas will always be my Queen.i'll just pretend the writing team didnt do that botched story of BFA.Sylvanas was a brilliant leader and if she was not under result of bad writing she'd go wraith form and rip soul out of anyone who challenged her.or even just dipped an arrow into the blight.
Does that mean another "Void Elf" allied races?After all the combat of High elf, Blood elf and Void Elf. I don't want the undead races open a new battlefieldHorde might not be good for Calia, but if she bring those "lightbound undead" to the Alliance, it will be a new Cataclysm for players
BfA tore the lore.She is the most sudden character i ever saw. She is like void elves, she is nothing.
My 2 cents is that Calia won't be the horde leader but a representative, now that there is a council within the horde, both Calia and, to an extent, Baine can really keep the peace going, broker a more diplomatic stance on affairs, though I think Calia will be more of an ambassador between horde and alliance by means of advising the forsaken on how to deal with their undeath, I think Lilian could be the "leader" of the forsaken, just Calia is an advisor more than a leader.So if that is the case, it will most certainly become an interesting plot point if and when there is another war between the horde and alliance, what would happen if Calia has to pick a side - this is if Calia only acts as an advisor, not a leader to the forsaken and that honor goes to Lilian, because Calia is inherently alliance, not horde, so will she side with the horde because of her heritage and forsaken being her lordaeron followers etc? Or will Calia side with the alliance because of her history in life with the Jaina, Tandred and Anduin (to an extent)?
Honestly I'm still really rooting for Lilian Voss. She had a super interesting backstory, she's not a push over, she obviously cares about other Forsaken (just have to look at Zelling), she has no problem with working with other members of the Horde, and cares about the living again look at how she treated Zellings family. Having Calia kind of hijack the leadership of the Forsaken feels incredibly unearned. I wouldn't say she's a smart leader, since she sabotaged it (with "good" intentions") the peaceful meeting that Anduin and Sylvanas put together that lead to Forsaken dying, and herself, plus it made Anduin look incompetent.
My main and first character is a Forsaken. I've been playing Forsaken since I started WoW in late Cataclysm. Calia should not lead the Forsaken. While she may have the bloodline to lead the undead (being royalty of Lordaeron) she does not have the state of mind or history to do so.Beyond Lillian Voss, the only other Forsaken worthy of leading the entire faction are Deathstalker Commander Belmont, a minor character at best, The Black Bride, who doesn't have any lore around her, and the Undead player character themselves.Blizzard really screwed themselves when they villain-batted Sylvanas.
She's the sister of the mofo that caused the death of an entire kingdom, forcing the "survivors" into an undeath state and under control of the Burning Legion. It required Sylvana's to release them from that control, and when they reached out towards the Alliance, in hope of them understanding they were the survivors of Lordaeron, they were met with open hostility and hatred...Scarlet Crusade was formed and supported by the Alliance, with intent of wiping out the Forsaken and retaking Lordaeron, without ever acknowledging that they were the kingdom's former population.Even if we do accept that time has passed and it's time to put old rivalaries aside, why not rise someone from the Forsaken ranks? Voss would have been a good choice, or maybe get them an High Council with some of the most respected Forsaken, instead of having a single leader...do anything, except putting someone who has a strong and friendly connection with the Alliance!