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Paul Kubit on Covenant Swapping - Changing Should be Easy, Changing Back Should be Hard

publicado 09/07/2020 a las 16:44 por Archimtiros

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To switch a Covenant, if you feel like you've made a mistake, you joined the Kyrian's but you're really a Venthyr, you should be able to do that with little to no penalty at all. The penalty comes when you switch back, when you decide, actually no I want to go back to the Kyrains. At that point, fantasy wise, you've betrayed their trust; how can we trust you're not a double agent of the Venthyr if you've left and rejoined, so that's where it will take some effort to get back.The specific penalty hasn't been determined, but I would imagine there is some period of time, say on the order of week and a half/two weeks, don't hold me on that, but something like that where you have to re-earn the trust that you lost with them. Not impossible, something that you could do, very possible between raid seasons, but something which should be very difficult to do so you won't be incentivized to pick a different covenant for raid one week and Mythic+ the next, or one raid boss and then switch back over for another raid boss.In this upcoming beta, there's going to be a lot more game play affecting systems which are tied to covenants which come to light. enough that hopefully the choice of a covenant becomes less like choosing an ability in a talent row, which is kind of how it feels now, and instead choosing between two classes - you're not just choosing an ability, but a pair of abilities along with a suite of additional passives and powers which come from Soulbinds you're able to tie to, benefits from your Covenant sanctum, and more. This should be something where still there are going to be cases where a particular Covenant choice might do better on a particular fight or situation in PvP, but we'd like to avoid a situation where "if you'd like to do Mythic+, this is the best Covenant for you, and it's going to be better in all cases in Mythic+, same for raiding, or PvP, and other primary ways of playing the game". There will for sure be cases where you'll say "alright, in this fight which involves single target damage and a lot of movement, yes the Venythr power is best", but in a more spread fight or in a single target fight even where it doesn't involve a lot of movement then maybe you'll do better in this fight, and that gives different players an opportunities to shine based on their covenant choices.

My take on this is that I think it's ok if people who want to play optimally choose their covenant because it's optimal. There are lots of reasons to choose a covenant: for RP reasons, cosmetic reasons, and the power of your character in a particular type of content is one of them.

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Comentario de midnightbluI really wish this "I should be able to do everything" sentiment weren't so prevalent. Regardless of how "single player-y" WoW has become, it's still an MMO*RPG* and choices should matter. You had to choose between Scryer and Aldor back in BC and nobody lost their life because of it. Players should put more pressure on devs to balance the choices rather than simply allowing everyone to do everything. Otherwise why not just give everything to every player baseline?Comentario de NasharchyTwo weeks sounds way too much. If you want to disincentivize swapping based on the content you plan to do it can be much shorter. Nobody wants a 2 week grind because they decided to check out another covenant and decided they didn't like it as much. Maybe they could just let you change without grind but it wouldn't take effect until next reset, so you can't swap during the week to have different abilities for different raid days. I would be OK with that.Comentario de ShelldinPesonally I like the direction they seem to be going with this. Obviously there are still a lot of details to work out but I like the idea of being able to swap relatively easily but having it be more rewarding overall to stick with one. This creates a more natural reason/incentive to stay, rather than placing barriers on switching.

Again there's still a lot to be worked out but based on this I think they have the right ideaComentario de dr7swagThis pic of Paul that you use.... so hot, very good choice .Comentario de TOMRUSThe more we know about Covenants, the worse this system looks...
Forced choice (you obviously chose what gives you most power for your main activity), and that gonna suck for those who participate in multiple different activities)...
Conduits destroyed on swap (more pointless grind for what exactly?), make them like talents/essences...
Being stuck with single covenant for entire expansion (because swapping is restricted in unknown way)...
Being unable to choose Covenant that suits best for current activity you are doing...Comentario de Mafia1882What about anyone that wants to play different roles as their offspec, what about the people that like to tank or heal in m+ but dps in raids, nobody will want a dps with a healer covenant and the other way around, what about the people trying to do higher end m+ or pvp and raid at the same time. The utility you need in all those things is very different. Take warrior as example, they can put down a banner giving party members in it attack speed, That's amazing for raid, most likely required for higher end mythic raiding guilds, yet completely useless in arenas or even m+ where you could instead pick a stun that generates you extra rage or a long ass root. Why do you need to be punished for wanting to do different things in the game at a high level.Comentario de Mafia1882Blizzard, players DO NOT WANT TO BE PUNISHED FOR PLAYING YOUR GAME. Stop implementing systems that do that FFS!
How have you not learned this with the dozens of systems through the last decade that players HATED?Comentario de phoenicksOfc Blizzard got it all wrong again. Make Convenants swap with no restrictions!Comentario de slemaireWhat about anyone that wants to play different roles as their offspec, what about the people that like to tank or heal in m+ but dps in raids, nobody will want a dps with a healer covenant and the other way around, what about the people trying to do higher end m+ or pvp and raid at the same time. The utility you need in all those things is very different. Take warrior as example, they can put down a banner giving party members in it attack speed, That's amazing for raid, most likely required for higher end mythic raiding guilds, yet completely useless in arenas or even m+ where you could instead pick a stun that generates you extra rage or a long ass root. Why do you need to be punished for wanting to do different things in the game at a high level.Comentario de KelleiOfc Blizzard got it all wrong again. Make Convenants swap with no restrictions!As for the article itself, it makes sense that a covenant wouldn't be just willing to take you back with open arms when you want to change back. You betrayed them, and that has consequences.Comentario de LautnerThe Ven'tyhr teleport is the same as the void elf teleport, isn't it? How come they're not all playin velfs?

Personally, I feel like they're making mountains out of molehills.Comentario de tryllyanEveryone needs to calm the hell down. We haven't even seen everything working yet, I mean you choose your Covenant then the soul binds are the tuning knobs that let you set your character if your doing M+ today and then can change for raid tomorrow. Until we see how all these things work in unison there is nothing to !@#$% about. There is still a ton of time before release so we can give them the feedback they need to make things right before launch.Comentario de NimokuI like this system more. People should grow up and make choices based on what they like. 99.99% of the playerbase doesn't switch class on a daily basis based on what's strong, why should it be different for covenants?Comentario de BeerWolfSo... like Scyers and Aldor? What's the bets there'll be a Feat of Strength of doing all 4 Covenants with the one character?Comentario de Hops7Makes sense that it shouldn't be easy or quick to switch between covenants, both in terms of lore and gameplay. If you can switch up so much about your character at the drop of a hat, it feels like none of those decisions really mean anything.
If I want to go back and do things totally differently, I'd rather make a new alt. Especially now that leveling alts is going to be so much quicker and more fun - I'm looking forward to getting to play through more of the older expansions :)Comentario de SarikI like this system more. People should grow up and make choices based on what they like. 99.99% of the playerbase doesn't switch class on a daily basis based on what's strong, why should it be different for covenants?Comentario de applebiscuitsameComentario de Archimtiros

The current restrictions actively punishes players who want to play all forms of endgame content, or enjoy playing multiple specs. Surely if you want to engage your playerbase, you want to motivate them to do all forms of endgame content so that they subbed for longer. But with these restrictions, they are actively pigeonholing players into a box.

How does that make sense? It doesn't.

We aren't talking about a few % difference either. Currently Azerite, a far smaller system, has about a 30-40% throughput difference between your best specs traits, and your worst on most dps specs. If they are incapable of balancing that properly, how do you think they will manage to balance 4 different systems stacked ontop of eachother? They won'tdosomenotComentario de WasselinI'm fine with swapping covenants being hard. I'm not fine with player power being tied to covenants. It's just not necessary.Comentario de StellarLeaderI actually agree with Blizzard on this, but I predict the hardcore playerbase (and the massively larger playerbase that thinks they’re more hardcore than they actually are) will complain endlessly until covenants are nothing more than skins of each other.

I hope Blizzard won't cave.

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