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Comentario de 8828

When you aggro him two stealthed elites come out to attack the party as well. Make sure to take out these first because he summons more of them. Have an off-tank (paladin, shaman, druid, or extra warrior) ready to pick up the ones he summons so they don't destroy your healer.

Comentario de 6984

Horde can do Deadmines too... Shamans are possible

Vancleef isn't too hard if done well. You'll have encountered harder bosses and areas in the instance, such as the large tauren captain who stuns, and the upper deck with Cookie and his friends. Apart from the rogues, he isn't too hard to kill. Just be prepared.
A mage can polymorph one, a rogue can sap one. Make sure your party is on the deck, as standing below can mean you can't cast as your target is not in view. The tank should attack Vancleef, with DPS backup. Perhaps get one party member to run around, with the 2 bodyguards following, while the other 4 bring down the boss. When VC is dead, it is easy to mop up the others.
A party of about level 20+ should not find killing this too difficult, provided your party is well-balanced (tank, healer, DPS) and can co-operate well.

Vancleef drops some really good loot, such as the famed Cruel Barb, a green polearm, and other good loot. He also drops a letter, starting a very large quest series which leads onto a reward - The Seal of Wrynn, a ring which will last you until about level 50!

Be sure to do this quest, whatever race you are. These items will last you for many levels. Even if you're horde, don't be put off, you can still get to DM if you're careful. Sadly, you can't do the quest.

Comentario de starkill

When you finally get all the way through Deadmines and you get to VanCleef be sure to watch out for his guards they will easy take you down because theres like four of them and then on top theres VanCleef. so all im trying to say is watch out and keep healling and eventually you'll be victoryious.

Comentario de 5463

If you get in too deep when you're fighting VanCleef, or just on the ship in general, there is a sanctuary that you can get to and wait for everything to retreat so you can regroup. There is a large wheel-like thing on the side of the ship about half-way up (you can't miss it). Jump in top of it, and nothing in this area can get to you; even the caster-pirates will run back and forth, and eventually give up.

Comentario de Thottbot

The gun powder is right befor you get to the cannon. When your going towards cannon look to right to see 2 miners ( i think ) and the gun powder on floor.

Comentario de Thottbot

for all u people who are extremely naive

5 quest total for deadmines

1.VC quest from defias brotherhood- links to another quest into stockades

2.red silk bandanas quest - from person on top of the tower of westfall in sentinal hill

3.goblin in dwarven district rear in stormwind giving u underground assault

4.thistnistles badge from dwarf in the bar right of the southern entrance in dwarven district

5.collecting memory miner union cards (pick up from purple area before instance from the undead) get it from thistnistle guy at dwarven district, same guy

these are all 5 quests i took with me, i did the last 4, vc i went back to do wen i had a better group. take all 5 with u wen u do it

Comentario de Thottbot

There are two thing I have to add:

1. Right after the shredder room, at the left hand side mini branch, there is possibly a rare spawn, miner johnson, who can drop a shield warrior/paladin will kill for at this level.

2. On the top level of the ship, there is a group of three including 1 caster, 1 melee and captain greenskin. It is advised that you stay clear of them when clearing the lower levels. Greenskin will drop emberstone staff, which is perfect for any caster until illusionary rod.

Comentario de Thottbot

I've wiped on this one many times, if your group is clueless you will all die. Found my chi with 2 pally's 2 rogues and a mage. All between lvl 20-26. Everyone knew what they were doing, took it down in less than 30 min.

Comentario de Thottbot

There seem to be a lot of questions about level. It's usually not a good idea to go in without everyone being in the 20s, but if everyone knows what they're doing you can take in a lower level player. I did deadmines once with a level 15 priest and a really good group, and it went fine. We had to work to protect that priest. You just draw a LOT of aggro if your level is that low. I'd wait since you can't use the quest reward gear until level 20something anyway. The skills you get at level 20 will also help you survive this instance.

Other than folks at level 20 often not knowing what they're doing, the hardest part of this instance for me has been people leaving before it's done. I did one runthrough with a level 60 and have gone through with 3 other groups of level low-20s. Each time, those groups have had to quit because 2 people left. Twice, we were on the deck of the ship SO close to finishing when the second person left. There is no way to win the Van Cleef fight with just 3 level-appropriate players.

I think a lot of folks don't know this takes a couple hours, and that it would be smart to get people to commit to finishing up front. Not saying it isn't still fun to run 90% of the instance and quit - it's really entertaining, with casters, an ogre, goblins, and pirates - and for Horde I think it's worth the swim to Westfall just to do an instance that's more fun than WC or SFK. But for Alliance, it can be frustrating to put in a whole evening and not get those great rewards (my mage used Staff of Westfall well into the 30s) because somebody just decides, "g2g" and logs out.

Comentario de Allakhazam

ok, this instance is fun as heck, i've done it about 6 times.

there are several doors you go thru to proceed to the next portion, each door is brotected by a boss.

Ogre, sneed and his shredder machine, a Big goblin.

the ogre is easy, just hack and slash.

the shredder machine is simple also, just remember, sneed jump out of machine when it dies, he is hidden within the graphics of the dead shredder, so if ya getting hit, pull him out of the graphics of the dead machine.

goblin will have a few buddies with him, healer be on the ball.

the main thing to remember about the doors, when ya proceed thru them, 3 defilias spawn behind ya, wizards, taskmaster. So as you start fighting into the next section, watch your backs.

when ya get into the pirate area, the first RAMP you get to will have a tauren, SMITE. he has some invisible rogues with him (3), the key to this fight will be your main tank tanking the Bull, with everyone else killing the rogues. When you get Smite down to about 75%, he stunns everyone and if the rogues are NOT dead, they will get free shots at ya for about 8-10 seconds (this can kill most lower lvl 20's).

once all the rogues dead, everyone focus on Smite.

Another named on the way up is the captain, he is a goblin, and has an posse of 3-4 with him, again, have MT focus on captain while everyone else kills the adds.

when Ya get to VC himself, he has 3-4 invised rogues with him, MT on VC, everyone else on the rogues. Someone should keep an eye on your primary healer and be prepaired to pull 2-3 rogues off the healer (or heal the healer).

about halfway thru the fight, 2-3 more rogues apear and assist VC, so everyone but MT off VC and kill the rogues again. when they all dead, everyone back on VC.

if someone dies AND someone loots VC, KEEP THE LOOT BOX OPEN until the rezzed person can loot (if they need the head)

Comentario de Allakhazam

24 warr, 23 hnter, 19 rogue, 20 mage, 21 priest.

crowd control very important. hunter must mark the warrior's target, hunter's pet must offtank one add, hunter must offtank another, mage must sheep, everyone has to be smart and keep the priest alive. pulls are 3 and four at a time.

we got VC and battle-looted the quest items, then wiped out to his goons :) that's plenty good enuf: pack up and go home, job completed.

I will go back and help others. It was my fifth try. Group was lower-level than my others, just better performers. The battle is very difficult.

Comentario de Allakhazam

If you're having second thoughts, brush them aside. You only need at least 1 paladin w/rez, 1 extra healer (druid/priest) and the rest can be Warriors/Hunters. At least a group of 4 with levels in the average of 21, with those below being able to either put out spells or tank to a point.

In this Quest the hardest things to do are keeping your party healed, and watching agro. Let your Hunter/Druid pull one at a time. Then let your tanks (Warrior/Paladin/Druid) keep them busy while the rest beat the holy heck outta what comes your way.

Parties get wiped out because they either rushed in and aggro'd a 3 or more people mob at once, or did not keep an eye on the life of their companions.

This quest is QUITE worthwhile in items/XP/and silver. Just have some good help :)

Comentario de Allakhazam

is there anyway to do this quest solo? is it that impossible to make it on lv21?

Comentario de Allakhazam

I just finished it, but I am wondering, if I don't hand the head in can I keep coming back into the instance? I would like to try to get some better drops.

Comentario de Allakhazam

when you reach teh top where VC is if you are a caster/ranged attacker stand on the cannons that are to the left of the ramp up there. this realy helped when i was healing. it's also fun to have a ranged attacker have agro while on the canon. then thay just stand at the ege of the boat even if someone else is attacking

Comentario de Allakhazam

whats a good lvl for a pally to try this solo, also since i'm a newb does anyone know what the best spells/abilities for a pally to use
thanks

Comentario de Allakhazam

I tried getting getting the quest from Stoutmantle, but he does give it to me. I did all the previos Defias Brotherhood quests....he just doesnt talk to me anymore. If some1 can tell me what im doing wrong, welcome :D

Comentario de Allakhazam

tried to solo this as a 20 druid.

i got through the instance part until the part with the big locked door (i had been prowling in cat form the whole way in). The 19 elite guard did 250 damage to me and killed me in one big hit :P

Comentario de Allakhazam

Its not so hard did it on my 3rd try with a level 26 Hunter, 21 and 22 Warrrior, 18 Paladin(me), and one level 17 Hunter. Didn't even die once on the final run.

Just watch the aggro, think before you rush in, and don't do anything stupid and you'll be fine.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I tried getting getting the qeust from Stoutmantle, but he does give it to me. I did all the previos Defias Brotherhood quests....he just dont talk to me anymore. If some1 can tell me whta im doing wrogn, welcome :D

Comentario de Allakhazam

This quest is easily do able

did it at a low level and again as a 28 rogue and 24 priest....

didn't die once

didn't take long

*hint* jump on the big wheel on the side of teh ship where VC is, if u get in trouble

Comentario de Allakhazam

Soloing:
LVL 30 Rouge in LVL 30 greens and blues, this is an easy instance.
36+ for all other classes to solo, maybe hunts and mages can get away w/ it earlier

Comentario de Allakhazam

blu

Edited, Nov 22nd 2006 12:57pm by Sewgoth

Comentario de Allakhazam

i have a lvl 65 mage mm8 with enchanting 300 and is going thro dm with me and will give me all good drops greens+ im gettin 1x crul barb blackend defias and ive got a shadowfang enchanted for firey wepon enchant crulbarb lifestealing and the boddy like 100health but the best 1s

SwiftSlash Bronzebeard lvl 19twink

Comentario de Allakhazam

Van Cleef is on top of the pirate ship, at the end of the instance. Just be careful when you're getting to Van Cleef because he has a couple of invisible rogues to help him out.

Comentario de Allakhazam

This is a great instance and quest. We did it twice the other night. Upgraded my 2h Axe on the first run. 2nd time through I upgraded my axe *again* and got the Defias chestpiece - 2 blue items in one trip. The Defias chestpiece is better than the leather chest reward for killing Van Cleef.

Comentario de Allakhazam

This quest is so not worth it.

I've tried it 3 times now and still haven't managed to kill VC. I've only even managed to make it to him once.

Our first group: Rog23, Pal22, Pal20, Warrior21, Mage22
Third group: Rog23, Pal22, Warlock24, Mage21, Hunter23
Second group: Rog23, Hunter29, Warrior32, Warrior25, Mage22

It just plain isn't possible. I've heard tails of level 30+ (full groups) wiped out. This quest clearly isn't possible at the suggested level and there's absolutely no way to do it before level 30. Save your time and effort. Come back at level 60.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Question Question! What level is VC, and how far is he past the section with the fire throwing goblins? What level is VC? And what level are the rogues around him? Answer please?

Comentario de Allakhazam

My first instance, was quite fun as well. Easily completed the instance with the following group:-
-Level 24 Mage
-Level 24 Paladin
-Level 28 Paladin
-Level 26 Warrior

Only had a few deaths in the whole instance, and that was only because of people getting ridiculous pulls that could quite easily have wiped us all out. The Foundary was handled brilliantly in my opinion, never got a pull of more than 2.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I LOVE THIS INSTANCE! I've only been in it three times (made it through only two times) and I say its pretty worth the money and the experience. Last time I went, I had three bags filled with green weapons by the time we got to VC. First time I went, I was a level 18 Druid. I went with a bunch of 22+ guys, except the only other healer was a level 24 Druid. When we got on the pirate ship, both of us got killed. That sucked. The second time I went, we had a level 43 Pally take us through, but obviously, that Pally didn't have much experience in the Deadmines, and got all of us low-levels wiped. Good thing Pallies can rez... The last time I went, I went with a 32 mage and a few 20-ish ppl. I was level 21. WE KICKED @$$! It was so fun.

Comentario de Allakhazam

i got help from a high level 50+..killed him fast...i could have all the items and i earned something of 3 gold of that.

Comentario de Allakhazam

isn't possible to do this quest solo? is it that impossible to do it on lv21?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Once you have done all the quests for Gryan Stoutmantle at Sentinal Hill turn around from were he is standing and you will see a Defias Traitor standing near by, do the quest for him were you need to escort him into the hideout, isn't hard if heaps of people are at Moonbrook killing the Defias. Once you get him to the door to the hideout you will complete the quest, then go back to Stoutmantle and talk to him to get the reward 1000+ exp at level 20 and then he will have a new quest for you, which is this one.

Enjoy and happy hunting.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I'd also like to have people hold off from looting VC if there are any dead party members. I had died and the body was looted while I was away. By the time I returned, nothin'.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Just finished this quest after my 6th attempt at it, 2nd today, no matter how many times i do it i never get frustrated cause its lots of fun. I admit it was much easier since i got my taskmaster axe.

Comentario de Allakhazam

took him out with a group of 4... i was the only one over lvl 20. i tanked and we took out his entire fleet. worth it for the rare item and xp. worst part by far was the goblin section. bring someone who can sheep.

Comentario de Allakhazam

well last night i a lvl15 druid,lvl17 hunter,lvl 24 rogue and a lvl38 druid call manticore same guild as mine the thriteen apostles!he rawks man helping us to pass the deadmines only die once and when we reach the ship i had to go if i stay down we sure kill VC sob had to do again!

Comentario de Allakhazam

This quests blows

Comentario de Allakhazam

I just completed for the first time yesterday, not as complicated as I thought and I easily completed it with a

21 hunter (me)
19 mage
18 warrior
20 priest

and we picked up a 26 warrior halfway through

its not that bad thogh I was pulling the wholee time and though I have decent gear for my lvl I only came close to dying on the bosses but Kitty on the other hand(my tank buddy) died 3 times but I just rez him feed him and fight him

Comentario de Allakhazam

where i can find him? the VC?

Comentario de Allakhazam

It really isnt that hard... and for all of the low levels... just try to find a nice lvl 60 who isnt busy and they will help you run it. I did this instance when i was lvl 12 with help from a 58 pally. Good drops and good quest rewards. *Best Drops* : Sneed: Glinid: Cpt. Greenskin: Mr. Smite: VC:

*Hint* If you are 15 or below get a pally so they can rez you. They are definitly faster than priests but slower than warriors, but warriors cant rez.

Comentario de Allakhazam

This quest is long. You probably need a five person group around lvl 20. My group barely made it, and we were 20-19-23-23-21.
make sure to have a couple hours to play...

Comentario de Allakhazam

im a lvl 21 druid. should i go solo or wit a group? im pretty good with feral combat.
pls reply

Comentario de Allakhazam

2 Preist = healer and rezer
1 Paladin = Auras
1 Warlock = tank with blue guy
1 Warrior = Dmg efficiancy

If the preist u are playing with has healing and rez (probly does) then replace 1 preist with a mage
1 Mage = SPLASH dmg

Comentario de Allakhazam

I ran this with a group all under 20...Its more of a time thing...You need to go in slow...Pull carefully and make sure you have one rez person and keep them safe...the rest is a breeze...

Comentario de Allakhazam

As a Rogue, using instant poison and a couple of greater healing potions, you can stealth-solo this around 33, at least I did. Can solo it and kill everything at 35+ if your gear is updated, you have pots for emergency, and use vanish at VC, you can walk out with anywhere from 3-8g worth of drops. Not hard. I've been testing soling this since I hit 28ish or so. The more you do it, the easier it gets.
I'm a combat/assassaination Rogue with a agi/stam/str gear if that helps. Have fun, I love this place!

Comentario de Allakhazam

Im lvl 29 and i never bothered to do the quest until now...but im afraid of lvling. I have just 1.2kxp to spare...is that enough to do this last and final quest without lvling? Help me!...plz

Comentario de Allakhazam

I have a question if you are grouping with other people doing the same quest does that mean that only one guy can have his head after you defeat VC?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Once you kill VC you get a letter that says it starts a quest and so i dont where to go to start it does anyone here know?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Finshed This Quest with LVL 18 Human Paladin with a friendly Rogue.

Comentario de Allakhazam

tried this quest today it is long and it is challenging i didnt even finish it because we exited the instance because of a trick portal

Comentario de Allakhazam

how long does it take?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Tried this last night, and one of our members had to leave halfway through. We still handled the entire zone with ease until getting to VC. We didn't even kill one of the three and all of us got killed. I was the lowest member at 22, and we even had a 29 Rogue with us. We thought the battle would be a bit easier, obviously.

So my question is, what is a good tactic for defeating these guys?

Comentario de Allakhazam

What level do you have to be to solo this Instance? Anybody do it yet?

Comentario de Allakhazam

It goes fast with lvl 60 and 20 rogue stealthrun

Comentario de Allakhazam

Do you have to be there to do this or can you be chilling at the entrance while a 60 rogue/druid kills VC?

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First of all if u want to do this quest try at least to have 5 players of level 20+ or two players of level 30-39,once your 40,its as easy as taking candy from a kid but when you are 20-29, always have at least one healer(shaman,druid,paladin,priest) and try to have a Rogue with u they help a lot.On the way there the most dangerous guys are:"Mr.Smite"(Sub Boss) and with some luck you can always find "Cookie", a level 20 elite that is the ship's cook and can give u (with luck) some pretty good items.Cookie wanders around so he won't always be at the same place.Tips:First, for Mr.Smite, he will be waiting at sort of entrance that bringsyou up the pirate boat and he will be guarded by an ivisible rogue but watch out!Every time u bring him down to a certain amount of life, he will stomp u and run to his chest for better weapons while u guys are stunned.So the trick is for the healer(s) or casters to get as far as possible so his stomp wont reach u and the casters continue firing their spell while the healer(s) heal the guys who are missing life while Mr.Smith continues his chit-chat.After an amount of time Mr.Smith will probably be dead by then.Also, dont go for the rogue, just finish Mr.Smith off and then just kill him 'cause M.rSmith will do much more damage.Now if u meet Cookie on the way there and u guys are 5 then its ok but if he attacks maybe 2 of you who are 20-29(unless if both of u are 28-29) then he might be easy to bring down a lot of life but at point, Cookie will run away and come back with some level 19-20 elites and they will probably kill u so the best thing to do is to either have a Hunter to stun him, a Paladin to stun him, a Warrior to War Stomp or a Mage to freeze him, then hes easy to kill, one of the best items he can give to u is a blue wand so if your a caster, you might want to try to kill him.After you continue killing guys until u get to the top of the pirate boat where you will meet VanCleef in a sort of cabin.The first thing u need to do is get to full health and mana then the strongest tank of the group goes straight at VanCleff while the others go for the two invisible guards that are surrounding him(Rogues watch out 'cause VanCleef isn't affected by either Sap or Cheap Shot so don't try it) and the healer(s) heal the guy the guy attacking VanCleef and occasionally the guys attacking the Rogues if they are losing too much life and then once the two Rogues are done, everybody goes for VanCleef and after he loses and amount of life, two rogues will come again so you redo life the last time:The tank goes for VanCleef and the rest go for the 2 Rogues and the healer(s) heals the guy attacking VanCleef and the others occasionally(try not to heal too much unless you have a lot of mana or else you will run out) and then its back to all killing VanCleef.After that he'll probably be dead and to be too disapointed if he gives you guys something you dont like 'cause there are a lot of possibilities(check it out on this site just type in The Defias Brotherhood and next to one of them will be written VanCleef's name and then click on it and they will show you a whole list of all the drops that VanCleef makes.)To go back out you should Hearthstone back home instead of doing the whole way back.Extra Tip:This is good if your doing the quest Underground Assault givin by Shoni The Shinlent in the Dwarven District in Stormwind and The Defias Brotherhood given by Gryan Stoutmantle for the Gnoam SpreckleSprocket you need to retrieve for Shoni The Shilent will be in a goblin who is in a robot all you need to do is destroy it and then loot it(it will be on the way to getting to VanCleef in a goblin room.)

Comentario de Allakhazam

Just finished this quest last night. I found it to be very worth the work. We breezed through it last night and put on a near flawless performance with no deaths at all.

25 priest, 25 mage, 21 druid, 21 rogue, 21 hunter

As the druid, I was the tank for the big fights. For everything except the bosses I was in cat form and we just dps'd everything till it died. When we aproached the bosses I would pull the boss with fairefire, switch to bear form and tank him while the rest of the group kills the goons.

I pulled the mobs when we got to the boat. Using fairy fire is very effective to pull small groups and predebuffs the mob being pulled.

Tubby: wait for him to walk away from his guards, then pull, you'll single him every time. After he dies, deal with his guards.

Shredder: Pull all guards before attempting the Shredder. For the guards at the far door, wait for the Shredder to path back up the ramp. Once all the guards are cleared you pull the Shredder and beat it down. When he dies the operator pops out and you have to kill him too.

Engineer Room: Clear around the cog all the goblins, when you get to the door the boss is acompanied by 2 guards. One of the guards can be pulled away from the Boss adn the other guard. Pull him and kill him. When engaging the Boss, you can either sheep the guard and kill the boss, or just kill the guard while the Tank occupies the boss.

First Mate: Once the dock is cleared it's very important how you pull the first mate and his rogue buddies. The tank will inch up till he agro's the stealthed rogues, this will also pull the first mate. The mobs on the deck will not agro! We had a mage so one rogue got turned into a sheep. The Tank should always stay on the main boss. The rest of the party needs to kill the remaining rogue, then kill the sheep, then dps the Boss. For the first mate he will stun the party 2 during the fight. As far as I can see it is not resistable, but he runs back to his chest and pulls some stuff out. Nothing big, just some dramatics, when you're unstunned keep dpsing him down.

Clearing the ship: Clearing the first deck is basically the same as clearing the rest of the instance zone. Once you get to the first ramp, everyone stays on the first deck while the puller brings the mobs down to the group. If you try and crawl up to the top deck, then once you get to the first grp on the top, you will agro the captain any all the other mobs on the ship. If you pull them indivdually then you'll be fine. I waited till the captain rounded the back of the ship, not sure if it makes a difference and I didn't want to take that chance :)

Captain: Once the top deck is cleared, everyone can move up the ramps and along the deck to where the ent to the deck is. You can pull the captain or inch up to him the way you did with the first mate. Either way you pull him you'll get his two guards with him. Tank him the same way you tanked the first mate.

VanCleef: VanCleef is located in the main cabin. You can see him if you peer in, but don't get too close until you're ready for him. You'll pull VC the same way you pulled the First Mate, he will have two rogue guards materialize when he's agro'd. Deal with them the same way you dealt with the First Mate's rogues. WARNING: shortly into the fight 2 more rogues will show up! We had the first two rogues dead before the second ones showed up so it wasn't a big deal, just a little surprise. We finished VC off before dealing with the rogues. But you can continue having the tank hold off VC while the rest of the group finishes the rogues. The Hunter's pet off tanked one of the new rogues so it wasn't on the priest.

It's important that you have a tank who can taunt so that the boss doesn't pull off and start pounding down the rest of the party. With a decent tank and a compitent healer, there should be no problems keeping everyone alive during the boss fights. We wiped the first night we tried just as the instance was respawning so we didn't attempt it again, but the second night we went in we used this strategy and came out of it feeling it was very easily done.

Hope this helps!

Jonais 22 Druid Darkspear
Kishan 13 Hunter Doomhammer

Comentario de Allakhazam

Just a heads up to folks who die before you get VAn Cleef's head. I went in as a lvl 19 mage, 20 war, 22 warlock, 29 paladin, and a 31 mage. We beat van cleef - but we got wiped out by his minions. Note - Polymorph really helped alot when used on the minions while the party fought VC.

But here's the main thing - if you fought VC and defeat him, yet not everyone gets the head - His Average respawn can be 30 minutes to 1 hour for his respawn. My group wasnt sure about his respawn, so I stayed back to see if he would at all. I repeat dont leave if you have the time, cause he will respawn.

Comentario de Allakhazam

My group's method for VC himself way simple, kill him. All we did was get all the members to focus on VC, kill him, loot the head and jump off the boat. Watch out tho, if you jump off the left side (the side you didnt come up on), there's a named murloc in the water who'll probably take you out.

-Rkor, 30 hunter, Draenor

Comentario de Allakhazam

how long does it take

Comentario de Allakhazam

I don't know about pirates, but Van Cleef and his rogues sure can swim. I did the instance last night solo with my level 33 paladin and killed everyone but haven't managed to kill Van Cleef (those blasted rogues got me in the end). So I took it from the beginning with the help of a level 43 warrior and done the whole instance in less than 20 mins I think :)

Comentario de Allakhazam

i started soloing this instance when i was lvl 36 , i never died , till i was playing around and an through the whole boat and aggrod everything for fun. . all u need to do is just keep using pet , and have track huminoids to see if patrol is coming

Comentario de Allakhazam

this instance is most fun when you have a well balanced group around the lvls of 20-23 any higher or lower and its to slow going or not enough of a fight. for soloing (i have soled with druid pally rogue and hunter) i would wait till you are about lvl 36-40 depending on class and if you are a cloth class then i would wait longer..unless twinked. but this is one of the most fun instances and a good learning exp for the newer players. Lots of cloth cash and items that you can sell/DE.

Comentario de Allakhazam

What level is this soloable as a warlock, I tried soloing it today as a lvl 40 and got killed at the shredder. Too much health for me :(.

Comentario de Allakhazam

im a lvl 29 twink warior and i can solo it right up until you blow the doors open with the cannon... and i dont get xp at all... oh and i got a lvl 19 twink rouge and i wanted to know if you actualy have to be lvl 22 to get the stuff or is it recomended?

Comentario de Allakhazam

I did it with a 17 Rouge and a group of 22+, the trick is TAKE YOUR TIME don't rush through and pull everything. Just stay focused and work together and it's not that hard.

Bringing someone who can res is extremely helpful too, you'll want to protect this person well. Trust me, getting 3/4 of the way into the instance and getting killed, and having to run back through the whole instance to get back to your party is a real pain.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Shouldn't take your group more than an hour and a half to do this entire instance. I'll lay out some working strategies as best I can.

In the corridors, which is most of the zone, you just need to watch what/how you pull. I've pulled the entire dungeon as a level 22 Hunter and never gotten more than one add. You really need someone with a ranged attack to pull. If it's a caster who shouldn't be tanking, they need to use their lowest level spell to pull with, so they don't cause much initial aggro. If it HAS to be a paladin or druid, then they need to pull the mob and back up quite a bit. Runners in here will get you adds, which cause wipes.

The first boss is an ogre. He walks up and down a path. If you've never done this before, watch him a couple times, and pull him when he's farthest from the door to avoid adds. There is a patrol after him, which will need to be neutralized before going through teh door.

The next boss is the Shredder, and it's pilot (Sneed?). This is fairly simple, as the shredder also has a set path. Pull him just as he begins walking up the hill, but make sure all the goblins around the wood are dead. The second and final patrol is here.

Next, you go down another corridor and into the Foundry. This is where most groups wipe. It is IMPERATIVE that your puller pay attention to the pathing of the goblins. Often they won't follow, but instead they will begin shooting. You will have to back out of their gun range to force them away from their friends to prevent adds. A single add in this area is difficult for a low level group, and can cause a wipe quite quickly. Also, the goblins in this area seem to have a high aggro range. Gilnik? is the boss of this area, over next to the door. He's not really too tough.

Next up is another corridor which ends with a cannon pointed at the door. You'll need blasting powder from a room nearby to activate the cannon. This leads to the docks. The docks are easy until you get to the ramp leading up to the ship. There will be 2 stealthed rogues at the bottom of the ramp, and Smite, the Tauren, at the top. The main tank should engage Smite at the wide area before the turn to the plank, while the rest of the group deals with the rogues even further back. The healer should be at maximum range from the warrior to avoid Smite's stun. The reason for being farther away from the ramp is so that Smite will have to cover distance to run to his chest to switch his weapons, allowing more time for the stun to wear off. Once the rogues are dealt with, the rest of the group can engage Smite.

At the top of the ramp, going right will lead to Captain Greenskin and Van Cleef. Going left will lead to Cookie, the murlock cook, and the exit. Just keep pulling slowly and keep the mobs being engaged far enough away from any potential adds. Once you reach the top platform, watch out for Greenskin. He patrols the top deck where VC is, but he will assist mobs on the platform below, so wait on him to patrol around to the other side before pulling. Once everything else is dead, pull Greenskin when he reaches the plank which leads to the top deck. He usually has 2 or 3 mobs linked to him, so this fight can be rough. Once Greenskin is down, it's time for VC.

VC has 2 rogue friends who will assist him in the fight. When he reaches half life, 2 more will spawn. Use the same strategy as with Smite, with the MT on VC while the rest of the group deals with the adds. VC doesn't have an AOE stun like Smite though, but he's tougher and has more DPS, so the healer will likely need to keep attention on the MT. As a 22 Hunter, I was able to use my pet to tank VC while I healed it, while the rest of the group dealt with the adds. This helped the healer both on mana and on aggro, though in the end the pet finally died when I ran OOM, and VC proceeded to kill me. The group succeeded in finishing him off, and a rez later and we headed for the zone.

Experience really helps a lot here. Once you reach the docks, if a wipe seems imminent, jump in the water, as the pirates can't swim. Ironic, ain't it?

Edited, Thu Apr 21 00:15:18 2005

Comentario de Allakhazam

Best thing to do if ya wnt to do it lower lvl ask a high lvl player hus hanging around to run u throught or a friend hus in a group

Comentario de Allakhazam

Completed this instance with my buddy. Two Paladins. I was level 26 and he was level 18. I was the hitter and he was support. Waas difficult at times to get through because his level 18 arse kept aggro'ing but we soon figured out everything. VanCleef was a major disappointment in the fight and the minibosses were lacking, although Mr Smite was crazy. :)

Basic Strategy through the entire thing, level 18 healslave and stun. Level 26 Seal of Command, Stun, Judgement combo. Have the level 18 stay far behind. Just in healing range. We talked through the entire instance so communication is really important. Once we kill Mr Smite, I recorded the rest with Fraps. :)

Comentario de Allakhazam

solo'd all the way to VC as a 29 NE hunter with a lvl 29 ghost saber pet.
forgot about the extra rogues he has with him....oh well at least i got to him muhahahaha...

Comentario de Allakhazam

Warrior to tank, Druid to of heal / of tank, Mage for Poly and Good DMG, Priest to Heal, and perhaps a rogue ;) ( Never likes paladins, they tend to steal aggro from the tank too much. ) Just take it slow ( Especially at Foundry ), And you`l make it easily :)

Comentario de Allakhazam

I'm a 27 NE hunter, when should i be able to solo it?

Comentario de Allakhazam

I did this instance with a small group of three (21rogue (me) 20warrior and 26 druid) we made it all the way to VC, we killed him but ran away from his rogues.
But i didnt have the quest back then, now im lvl 24rogue and have the quest. Should i kepp the westfall tunic or should i try to find something better?

(i think +11agility is pretty good for rogues, no?

Comentario de Allakhazam

This was a lot harder than I expected. Make sure you heed the previous advice and have a few hrs to spare. My group did it with me lvl 18 Pal, 19 War, 19 Rogue....AND 40 Mage. It was crazy, but way fun. My additional advice: make sure you have lots of space in your inventory, so you won't have to drop needed stuff because you will get lots of cool stuff.

Comentario de Allakhazam

When my group killed VC and we found this really nice Armor on him and lotted for it. What was stupid was that i got a tie lot with another guy, and another person which got a lower number than us just walks up and loots the armor from us. Blizzard should fix something stupid like this.

Comentario de Allakhazam

This QUEST is easily done...if u have a lvl 30+, a healer, and a tank, its is VEY DOABLE...VERY....and is recomemded not to try to solo until ur lvl 40ish...if ur a pally do it at lvl 35 and see how u go...might make it...i'd still say lvl 40 for priest soz...not powerful enough...even though u have better healing...And dont know how u didnt finish it becuse that portal is end potal at ship...VC is at the top and to get to "trick portal" u need to go that way first...NOOB

Comentario de Allakhazam

it has been said that the first mate's stuns are not resistable... maybe so.. but i have found a way around that... if you stun him first.. and beat him throuth the health that he would stun you... he will not... he will just go to his chest for the next weapon.. and you can get in crazy hits and damage for free.

i have done this on four seperate occasions so it is repeatable and wasnt a fluke.

Comentario de Allakhazam

same here i can not get quest anywhere did all the brotherhood kill quests and cann not get another quest from anyone at tower? where do i get vc quest now?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Revisited the Deadmines as a level 33 Retribution Paladin. Solo'd it fine. Just watch your pulls. Too many and it doesn't matter how many protection-heal's you have.

I can run through most of the DM with Seal of Command on and kill the Defias Miners, the goblins would have to be the hardest part. Lots of good drops to sell at the AC or to DE. :) Made it to VC, didn't even bother killing his lackies because he'd just respawn them. If you don't kill the lackies, than VC doesn't respawn any more than two. They were weak afterwards though because of my Retribution Aura but if you find yourself in a bind, switch off to Concentration Aura and heal yourself and don't forget that Judging with Command deals double damage when the target is stunned. :)

Comentario de Allakhazam

Doing this quest first introduced me to the Dead Mines. It was fun going through and getting TONS of awsome armor and weapons and stuff.

Comentario de Sipder2

How to complete La hermandad de los Defias part 7:

accept quest /way 56,28, 47,56
create or find group to Deadmines Dungeon
kill Edwin VanCleef (deadmines boss) for drop Cabeza de VanCleef
return quest /way 56,28, 47,56

Video guide: https://youtu.be/PJn7JJXMD2g

Comentario de deadpacman

Hopefully you didn't skip through the quest text throughout this quest chain. It was, and still is, a simple but marvellous story in which it is ponderous if the adventurers truly were the heroes for slaying VanCleef, despite his trespasses. Here's a rundown of what transpired throughout the quest chain:

Gryan Stoutmantle of Westfall learns that a faction calling themselves the Defias Brotherhood is responsible for driving the people of Westfall from their homes. He tasks the player to seek the aid of Wiley the Black in Lakeshire - a rogue who owes Stoutmantle a favor.

Wiley complies with the request for information, and has the player return a note to Stoutmantle. The note states that the Brotherhood is larger than previously thought, and that the Kobolds and Gnolls of Westfall are also part of the conspiracy. They have hired Goblins to produce the mechanical harvest golems seen throughout Westfall. The note also states that they have an underground network from Booty Bay as far as Stormwind Keep, and that they are working on a weapon of mass destruction. It also mentions the name "Stonemasons."

Upon returning the note to Stoutmantle, he ponders if Wiley mentioning the Stonemasons was a slip of tongue, and perhaps they are connected to the Brotherhood. He asks the player to speak to Matthias Shaw of SI:7 for more information.

Shaw writes a report for Stoutmantle which details what he knows about the Stonemasons. In the report, it is revealed that the Stonemasons Guild was responsible for rebuilding Stormwind after the First War. Their leader was Edwin VanCleef (also of note is that Baros Alexston, the current Stormwind City Architect, was also a former member). The nobles of Stormwind, however, refused to pay the Stonemasons for their service - the guild was left bankrupt and largely forgotten by the city's corrupt officials. Shaw states that he was a close personal friend of VanCleef for much of his life, and that if he is behind the Brotherhood, the situation is more grave than even he thought.

Stoutmantle then seeks confirmation that the leader of the Brotherhood is in fact VanCleef. He tasks the player with waylaying a Defias messenger spotted travelling between the Jangolode Mine and Moonbrook. The messenger was carrying a cryptic letter that was signed by VanCleef.

While retrieving proof of VanCleef's role in the Brotherhood, Stoutmantle and his men captured a thief attempting to steal a wagon who also happened to be a memeber of the Brotherhood. In exchange for his life, the thief claims that he will reveal the location of the Brotherhood's hideout; Stoutmantle has the player escort the thief and it is revealed that the Brotherhood's den of operations is a vast underground tunnel network, beginning under the village of Moonbrook, known as the Deadmines.

The final task is to enter the Deadmines and slay VanCleef once and for all. Once complete, a letter may be recovered from his body, which sparks further hints of a conspiracy of corruption within Stormwind and begins the Stockades quest chain.

Comentario de Toroid

You need to complete the People's miltia series in order to get this quest. The quest chain can start without it though.

Comentario de Lunaeros

On the quest, when I exited the instance and went to turn in I noticed no head. I thought maybe I forgot to loot, but I got the Unsent Letter, so I must have. Head drop is not 100%, even if you're on the quest. Might have to do multiple runs for this one.

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La hermandad de los Defias

Mata a Edwin VanCleef y lleva su cabeza a Gryan Mantorrecio.

	Cabeza de VanCleef (1)

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Todavía hay una tarea que debes cumplir. Edwin VanCleef debe ser asesinado. Aunque me entristece condenar a alguien a la pena de muerte, el bien común de las gentes de los Páramos de Poniente exige que VanCleef descanse de una vez por todas. Tráeme la cabeza de ese villano cuando hayas terminado tu hazaña.

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