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I have + up to 449 healing
And 2 points in the talent reduce mana cost by 8%.

Since flash heal gains around 40% of the +up to healing. It gives me an extra 179.2. After this you apply blessing of light for an extra 115.

Ok so we have base "Heals a friendly target for 343 to 383." avg= 363

OK SO...
Avg 363.0
Gear +179.2
Light +115.0

Total =657.0

Mana cost = 140 (reduced for me by 8%) 128.8
(or full talent 12%) 123.2

Ok so mana efficiency.

657.0 / 128.8 = 5.1 health/mana
657.0 / 123.2 = 5.3 health/mana
Healing/second is 438.

(example is base flash heal for priest with talents for 1021.2 for 380 which is 2.69 health/mana (680 healing/second))

With my mana pool of around 5.2k (unbuffed)
Thats around 40 heals (not including regen(which makes about ever 3/4th free or crit heal)
40x657.0 = 26280 total only spent healing with flash heal.

FULL BUFFED= 5.4k health
6.3k mana
Well just something to think about before knocking the spell. For the long haul battles, such as molten core, paladins are very viable healers.

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unless ur my build, retrib.

only holy i got is the reduced spell interuption.

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I don't know...FoL seems kind of UP to me, especialy when compared to the Shammy's Lesser Healing Wave. Sure its mana effecient, but it is very time inefficent for the amount it heals. A 1 sec cast time whould be good, and would make for a heal that is difficult to interrupt (which we don't have right now).

Oh, and BTW, retribution pally's rock IMHO. By 1.9, we should effectively be 2/3 warrior and 1/3 healer...that's the way it should have been. Holy will specialize in healing, and Protection will always be key to PvP victory, but hopefuly will be geared more towards tanking following the patch.

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No, that's not the point: of course Ret-speced pallies can heal just as well as most other pallies, as the majority of the healing-related talents are in the early tiers. Heals need to be improved due to the fact that they're not time efficent and woefuly ineffective for PvP because of this. They could simply buff the class, but I think that in order to balance the class, the holy tree should be mostly devoted to healing--thus enabling the paladin to specialize his/her role by specing in any given tree. Holy would offer improved healing/+ minor buff to holy dmg, Protection would grant the paladin improved tanking/buffing abilities, and Retribution would give the paladin more melee combat options, with a boost to dmg and greater dps control.

Addition: concerning u're build: yes, the 20/0/31 build is very popular...(I'm 7/13/31 myself, mainly for enhanced AC to compensate for weilding a 2H'er most of the time)....U too, would benefit from the near-exclusive use of a 2-hand to maximize the effectiveness of SoC, currently our primary dmg abillity. I'd recomend specing 2H weapon specialization, as SotC is used primarily in conjunction w/ SoR and low-dmg 1-handers, and overall this combo deals significantly less dmg than SoC + slow 2H, in which SotC has little--if any--impact on SoC's dmg output.

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Considering I was able to take down Lar'Korwi (lvl 56) when I was lvl 49, I think we do just fine with SoW and a good 1hander-shield combo.

In any case, I think FoL is better suited for Holy paladins. If you maximize its effect with +Healing as the original poster mentioned, then you're probably not adding effects like +str, +stm, +Atk that would be really effective for Protection or Retribution paladins.

That makes this spell virtually useless for them unless you are low on mana.

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Healing gets very expensive for pallies... We all know this.

FoL is super man-efficient with talents and equipment bonuses.

What about those of use who desire not to be stuck as permanent healers?

Hold on to a few of your best +Healing items. Change your gear when you are going to play role as major healer.

With an addon like Wardrobe, you can rapidly switch betwwen sets of equipment depending on whether you need healing bonuses or +sta +str or whatever.

The only downside is bag space. Bring on the big bags.

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mana efficiency is very important in battles that actually require paladins to be healers. sure the amount healed in short time pale comparing with priests, but guess who is still pumping out constant, reliable healing near the end of a touch battle? that's right, the paladin and the druids.

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damn right they are. anyone who has never been a healer class before just can't fathom how hard it can be to keep everyone alive. specially if your party is the ghung-ho type that wants to attack everything within a 5-mile radius. a priest provides a good 75 percent of the healing, but the remaining 25 percent goes to the druids and pallies, and without that 25 that poor priest is gonna be hurting. someone has to heal the priest while the tanks and DPSers slash and explode the bad guys.

*gets off soapbox and bows*

im speaking on behalf of my new pally alt who just reached 18. he rocks. im on Terenas, and the names Palladine if you ever wanna DM or whatever instance i happen to be lvled enough for at the moment.

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shamans heals 1000 for 300mana with lesser healing wave

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if a shaman gets as much + healing.. its the same.

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Flash of Light kind of works like a targetting heal over time. My paladin has around +266 healing (213 really, 266 for FoL with Libram of Divinity) and that's already about healing a target that has Blessing of Light on him/her (+114-115). With Blessing of Light (+115) would make my FoLs heal +229-230, and with the +12% talent from Holy tree, it heals about 600-700, crit heals about 700-900.

I spam this spell on those who are only slightly hurt (like just 300-500 damage, this is seemingly small to warriors/tanks), saving the priest/druid from spending mana on those stronger slow/fast target/group heals until my heals can't keep up. In the end, I've spent more of my mana healing than the priest/druid. And it being mana efficient, there's not much downtime as paladins don't have tons of mana like priests/druids would.

I wouldn't say that this is the best spell to use for paladins who are main healers unless they have a lot of mana, +healing, and uses BoL on everyone. I've mostly used this a lot as a 2ndary healer.

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cast flash of light ; repeat

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is like Rank 3 of lesser healing wave

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I got +665 to Healing and my avg Flash of light is 700+ and i crit for 1000+ my mana pool is 6500 buffed and i got crit at least every 5 flashes and get mana back that means that i can heal

(6500/128)=50 + 10 Free heals =60 heals

(700*50)+(1000*10)=45000 heals for mana pool considering without any mana regeneration.
That makes 45000/6500=6.92 Heals per mana point.

Thats a very good healing rate.
Pallys rule in PVE.

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wait until you get to the late aq40/naxx stage when all your palys are sporting gear with 750+ healing and their flash of light is hitting for 1100 noncrit and 1700-1800 crit, not to mention most of them will have such large mana pools that they can afford to throw 2 second holy lights when %^&* hits the fan.

With enough healing, your paladins not only become mana efficient healers, but extremely potent as well. hence, you see why alliance guilds generally progressing at a faster rate in naxx (in fact, we usually throw a ToL druid and holy paly into one of our MT groups if we're short on priests and its usually sufficient)

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