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Comentario de Thottbot

THIS IS UBER!

Comentario de Thottbot

I mean... hey, when do you cast a greater heal in Molten Core? You mostly use Flash Heal. And even if you cast a greater Heal, what are the 300HP regenerated through renew worth? Nothing, I tell you. 63hp/tick are nothing for a character with 5000 hp...

Comentario de Thottbot

OK.. n00b...

"And even if you cast a greater Heal, what are the 300HP regenerated through renew worth? Nothing, I tell you. 63hp/tick are nothing for a character with 5000 hp... "

Top renew: 1012 dmg over 15 seconds.. do the math..

that would be friggin crucial. i dont use greater heal half as much as flash in high end instances.. MC, BWL.. but when i do, it is for good reason and if i pop a 1000 HP renew for free.. that save sme 330 mana and gives my main tank 1000 hp.. thanks bye ... aweome buff.... however 5proph/3trans is looking better

but still, stfu

Comentario de Thottbot

Rank 5 heals for 315 over 15 sec.. Not impressive.

Comentario de Thottbot

I have +450 to healing, and ive only got 3 pieces of prophecy no trans. Suddenly that 315 point renew is 765 hp FOR FREE. Not a bad deal, considering that the only person i know with anywhere near 8 pieces of trans has over +800 to healing.

Comentario de Thottbot

its a decent heal... maybe like 700-800ish renew after casting a greater heal but honestly i almost never use greater heals in raids... or in any situation at all
flash heals allow for quicker response to quick damage and heals the tank receives from other healers
so u can stop urself and save the mana
only time i ever use greater heal is with inner focus and more often i use a prayer with that

either
a) the target tank is taking damage quickly and would die in a 3.5 or 4 second cast
b) the tank is getting healed by multiple people and u waste a ton of mana by overhealing
c) ur in pvp and theres no chance in hell of getting off a heal that takes this long and also loses casting time from damage

Comentario de Thottbot

1) Now will stack with Renew spell itself.

2) Greater Heal is being lowered in casting time and become more mana efficient.

To me that makes this a very awsome set bonus, possible chaining 800 heal renews on a target. 160 damage every 3 seconds. Stacked with the best renew possible this becomes 383 every 3 seconds (223 from rank 10 renew with talents)

Comentario de Thottbot

after gheal changes, this effect rocks

btw, with a lot of +healing gear, even low rank heals are quite powerful

Comentario de Thottbot

my rank 1 greater heal averages near 1800 each hit. on top of that, a free renew which ticks for 250?

i RARELY use flash heal in raids. rank 1 greater heal, rank 3 greater heal are the heals that i use the most with highest rank renew and bubble for non-tanks usually doing the job fine.

i only use flash heal if someone is about to die, but usually unless they're tanking something, a bubble would give you enough time to land a greater heal rank 1 anyway.

if i see a tank get that low for some reason, then i would probably use a bubble, followed by 1~2 higher rank flash heals, then a max rank greater heal (considering i'm the solo healer which is rarely the case anyway)

Comentario de Thottbot

Just tested it, and the 8-piece set bonus receives the full bonus of your +healing. So, instead of 300 total healing, you're talking more in the range of 900+.

Comentario de Thottbot

I can only think of one reason this is good, you never cast greater heal in raids, and I only cast greater heal one time, and that's with inner focus, free casting cost. The only positive about this really is that it stacks with the highest rank of renew. But all in all, this is one of the worst 8 set upgrades there is.

Comentario de Thottbot

This buff stacks with a regular renew. So it isnt really "bad" as everyone seems to think. Plus, its more heals for free, why would ANYONE complain about that?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Yes the 8 piece bonus Renew also receives +healing. It also stacks with another Renew, so you will occassionally see 2 Renew icons on a target. One is the regular Renew, one is the 8 piece bonus.

Comentario de Allakhazam

The 8-piece bonus does get the benefit of +heal gear. You can test it as follows. Click off Fortitude. Cast GHeal on yourself and immedietly cast fortitude on yourself. You will see a flashing buff that looks like the renew icon, but is labelled "Greater Heal" and tolltipping it says it heals 63hp/3 sec for 15 sec. If you check your combat log, you'll see that you are being healed for much more (in my case, 183hp/3 sec).

What I do often in raids, since at this time I have imp renew and spiritual healing talents, is use GHeal on the main tank (always ready to use flash, of course, and never on fights like broodlord, ebonroc, etc.) With several priests healing the MT, my GHeal does not always land (mana conserve mod for the win). When it does, I follow up right away with renew (rank 9).

End result =
Greater Heal HoT (183 hp/3 sec)
Renew (Rank 9) (323 hp/3 sec)
They DO stack, so 506 hp/3 sec over 15 seconds = an additional 2,530 hp healed.

I originally thought the same as "Hellgamer", but now that I know the 8-piece bonus gets + healing benefits, it tips the scales.

Edited, Sun Jan 22 08:28:19 2006

Comentario de Allakhazam

Well, think about it. If you had full transcendance, you would get +300 healing from just that, then you would probably get another +100~+250 healing from other equipment. (Benidiction, Hide of the Wild, etc.) With that renew bonus, you would pretty much get 200% bonus from +healing.

Also the rank 5 renew applies to all ranks of greater heal, so you could get some very mana efficient healing out of using rank 1, although it may not be time efficient.

Using this trinket would make it much nicer also. Talismán de curación de Hazza'rah

Comentario de Allakhazam

LOL = crap

Comentario de Allakhazam

I so seldom cast greater heal that this does not seem worth it for a hard to acquire 8-piece ability. I'd much rather have 5 from Transcendence and 3 from the Vestments of Prophecy (-.1 sec to flash heal)

Comentario de Allakhazam

Why crap? It's +315 hp (before talents), plus any +healing items you have on.

Unless you were expecting holy bolts of light to shoot out of your ass...

Comentario de Krust

Seeking confirmation the renew effect 1) stacks with other heals 2) benefits from + healing and 3) benefits from the improved renew talent. From reading the comments it SEEMS like 1 and 2 were true in vanilla, no word on #3.

Comentario de Dwarfeus

1: Yes, it does scale with plus healing.
2: Yes, it does stack with Renew.
3: No, it doesn’t work with Improved Renew.

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