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Comentario de 20259

Omg where is the +healing or +dmg ?

Comentario de zagi

Sick regen on this one;
1.9% spellcrit rating and 9 mana per 5sec.
The 26 intellect gives +9 healing (WOOT), but yeah..
It lacks +healing..

Comentario de 6913

It just seems like this item is very under budget. Let's compare it to the Gladiator's Ornamented Chestguard (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31613), which is the obvious other choice for someone going for a spellcrit healing breastplate (the Karazhan one and Shadow Lab chests are for a different playstyle). Both Gladiator's and this chest are the SAME 115 iLevel.

Gains from this item:
+14 spellcrit rating (.63 spellcrit)
+9 mana per 5

Losses from this item:
-35 healing
-18 stamina
-3 intellect
-25 resilience
-3 sockets

Now assume you socket the Gladiator chest with a Gleaming Dawnstone (+8 spellcrit) and 2 Royal Nightseye (9 healing and 2 mp5). This then activates the +4 spellcrit setbonus on Gladiator chest. After these sockets, gains and losses follow....

Gains when Gladiator BP is socketed:
+2 spellcrit rating
+5 mana per 5

Losses when Gladiator BP is socketed:
-53 healing
-18 stamina
-3 intellect
-25 resilience
-3 sockets

Doesn't look that great now.

Comentario de 45886

I'd be the first to say this is junk.

Just do arenas for a while and grab the https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31613 as a paladin. Stick in random red/yellow gems and you'll have a hell of a lot more healing and the exact same spellcrit.

I would hate to have to kill lurker for this piece of trash.

Maybe if you're going holy shock spec? ;)

Comentario de 30141

This is actually quite nice now. If you have the gladiator's breastplate and add the pvp spell crit gem and 2 +18 healing gems then it's comparable to this still though... This would have 18 healing less but has 11 more int and 10mp5s more. So not a bad trade off.

Comentario de 22619

With 2.1.0, it looks like a dark red & grey recolor of Paladin Tier2.

Comentario de 24174

This breastplate is pretty attractive at first...but if you compare it to the Gladiator Ornamented Chestguard https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31613

It is not that impressive. In 2.1....you can purchase a Gleaming Ornated Dawnstone (+10spcrit) https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28120 for 8,100 Honor(very cheap).
Socketed with 2xRoyal Nightseye (9healing,2mp5) https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24057

you get a pretty decent BP. Here are the totals:

Socketed Gladiator Ornamented Chestguard :

1450armor
+42Stamina
+29Intellect
Equip:
42 spellcrit
25 resilience
53 bonus healing
4mp5

with a little arena and honor grinding you can currently get a bp that is almost as good as this 25man raid drop.

Comentario de bloodvalor

Justicar Chestpeice https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29062 socketed with two 9heal 2/5 and one 4int 2/5 is much better than this.

And IMO, https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28662 is even better than this if you don't take stam into account. More mp/5 is more valuable to raiding paladins since the illumination nerf.

Comentario de Corbon

This is a sidegrade to T4 imo. I currently have this, but I'd rather have T4 (token never dropped for me) since the sockets on the set piece make it more flexible. And if you don't mind losing some MP5, Season 2 is also comparable to this, even in raid PvE. It's never wrong to have a nice plus amount of stamina.

Comentario de artemis

Just think about that this one got Spell crit, but got Low + heal vs Chestguard of Hidden Purpose , but not sure about Chestguard of Hidden Purpose are better than this b6fd7.

Comentario de 125788

I got this tonight, and I'm liking it. I was using Void Slayer's Tunic before as nothing had ever dropped to replace it despite all my grinding. For regen purposes, the loss of 27 +heal from more than 1900 raid buffed to gain stats worth 330 mana and 22 virtual MP5 is nothing.

Versus Lightbinder, it's a loss of 35 +heal and 3 MP5 for a flat 1.9% spell crit. That's closer, but given the size of your +heal pool when you have to make the choice the spell crit is better. Your total heal will be reduced by about 1%, but your longevity increases by 1.2%.

OTOH, I'd almost certainly take Chestguard of Hidden Purpose over this. Gemmed with Teardrop Living Ruby, Royal Nightseye and Luminous Noble Topaz, you're trading 6 Intellect and 2% spell crit for 67 +heal and 7 MP5.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Does anyone know where this drops? This looks awesome for a holy specced pally

Comentario de Allakhazam

You people do realize that this item helps your damage spells as well as your healing, unlike all the other listed items which only help healing?

Comentario de Allakhazam

anyone have a pic?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Breastplate of Many Graces
Binds when picked up
Chest Plate
1135 Armor
+40 Stamina
+28 Intellect
Durability 135 / 135
Requires Level 68
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 62.
Equip: Restores 11 mana per 5 sec.

WTF is with the blizzard item creators? This BLUE drops in Shadow lab.
The "epic" drops in a 25ppl high-end dungeon. These item creatos should be fired out asap imho.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Sorry, this Breastplate doesn't even come close to the Justicar Chestpiece, despite its higher item level. No +Heal and, much worse, no sockets, it's slightly better than the blue one from Shadow Lab but sucks as a Lv 115 Epic.

Justicar Chestpiece
Binds when picked up
ChestPlate
1329 Armor
+22 Stamina
+31 Intellect
Blue Socket
Blue Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +6 Stamina
Classes: Paladin
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 81.
Equip: Restores 5 mana per 5 sec.
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 13.

By adding rare sockets like and 2 x , you end up with ~40 stamina/int, 81 heal and only lose 1/5 MP5 and 29 spell crit rating.

Comentario de Allakhazam

It's from the lurker below, a fish boss in serpentshrine lair

Comentario de Allakhazam

Ok lets do some math over a 8 minute boss fight;

Glowing Breastplate of Truth
Binds when picked up
ChestPlate
1450 Armor
+24 Stamina
+26 Intellect
Requires Level 70
Equip: Restores 9 mana per 5 sec.
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 42.

Breastplate of Many Graces
Binds when picked up
Chest Plate
1135 Armor
+40 Stamina
+28 Intellect
Durability 135 / 135
Requires Level 68
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 62.
Equip: Restores 11 mana per 5 sec.

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GBOT = 9 mp5 = 9 * 96 (8min*60/5) = 864 mana for mp5 for the fight
GBOT = 42 spell crit or ~ +2% spell crit = 2/100 casts free mana (if you cast some sort of heal once every 5 secs average would be 96 casts in fight so 2 free mana casts added so approx 1200 mana and 8000-10000 healing assuming typical overheal on crits so 5000-6000 effective healing on average.
GBOT summed up(96 casts) = 21.5 mana/5 and approx +62.5 healing

So in reality during A BOSS FIGHT! I would definitely switch to GBOT but on trash the Blue armor is actually better given that the GBOT only realizes it's advantage with spell crit over the longhaul -

Itemrack FTW? swap out to the epic for 8min++ boss fights and you will see statistical advantage -

Short duration healing will see more of a benefit from +healing as it is more consistant.

All in All Justicar BP is better than both.

Storm

Comentario de Allakhazam

Well keep in mind that the more crit a holy paladin has the more mana he saves. But it is true that that 81 or even 62 healing is a much better option than that 42 spell crit. Too bad that breastplate couldn't have like even +40 healing. Spell Crit + Illumination talent in the Holy tree = Angels Singing.

Comentario de Allakhazam

@ zolk

depends on what you're aiming with your pally.

+ spellcrit is very important for pallys because we get our mana back when we critheal.

since a lvl70 pally can easyly have +1100 heal, those 62 do not really fall into calculation, but +42 spellcritrating does.

Comentario de Thottbot

Drops from The Lurker Below in Serpentshrine Cavern.

Comentario de Thottbot

as some guy above mentioned, this is barly an upgrade to the bp of many graces .. compared to bp of lightbringer, which drops from illhoof and is far more easy to obtain, i really think blizz has to improve this one ..

ssc is a huge upgrade in difficulty, and most likely any guild will use dkp in there, so this one will cost at least some minimum dkp anyway .. so, at least some heal, or like two sockets would surely give this bp the buff it needs to even out the longer way to get it.

Comentario de Thottbot

~2% spell crit is a huge upgrade over 60 or so +healing.

If you cannot figure out why please do some research on your class.

Comentario de Thottbot

I don't want to go into detail about which one is better, but one way of deciding which gear to put on for an instance (I have a set for spell crit and a set for +heal) is the nature of my current group.

I went to an instance with 3 cloth-wearers and a Warrior Tank. I think spell-crit gears (Like this chestpiece) are best suited for that setup since you're gonna end up overhealing the cloth's with excess +healing gears. So I'd rather take my chances with a 35% spell crit rate healing them and hope that spam FoL's is enough to keep em up.

Then I went to the same instance (Shattered Halls) with a Warrior Tank, a Hunter and 2 rogues. This is (in my opinion at least) best suited for +Healing gears, since you have more margin for error on heals, and a single Holy Light (non-crit) heal will completely heal all of your party members (except the Tank of course).

Or do you guys think this Chestpiece is the best out there for pallies regardless of the situation?

Comentario de Thottbot

Compare it with this :

Grand Marshal's Ornamented Chestplate
Binds when picked up
Chest Plate
1164 Armor
+37 Stamina
+24 Intellect
Red Socket
Red Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +4 Spell Critical Strike Rating
Durability 135 / 135
Classes: Paladin
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 21 (1.0%@70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 22 (0.6%@70).
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 18.

add 3 gems(+8 spell crit)

That makes it 45 spell crit rating and it is much easier to get.....
Imo Glowing Breastplate of Truth needs to be buffed

Comentario de Thottbot

Good thing they nerfed illumination, right?

Comentario de Thottbot

I find this SSC drop to be an ok upgrade to my Gladiator's Ornamented Chestguard, the only thing it gives that is better is 10 mp/5. Here is the break down...

With Glowing Breastplate of Truth I gain over Gladiators...
Equip: Restores 10 mana per 5 sec.
+60 Armor

With Glowing Breastplate of Truth I lose...
+7 healing
+4 Intellect
+6 Stamina
Resilience rating by 27

I have (2) +9 Healing and +4 Intellect and (1) +8 spell crit rating for each gem slot on my Gladiator's...

Gladiator's Ornamented Chestguard
Binds when picked up
ChestPlate
1547 Armor
+45 Stamina
+31 Intellect
Red Socket
Red Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +4 Spell Critical Strike Rating
Durability: 165 / 165
Classes: Paladin
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 30.
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 27.
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 42.

Glowing Breastplate of Truth
Binds when picked up
PlateChest
1607 Armor
+39 Stamina
+40 Intellect
Durability 165 / 165
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 42.
Equip: Restores 10 mana per 5 sec.
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 53.

SOOO, I would take the drop. Could it be a bit better, YES! I've had this Gladiator's since after my first week in Kara, I want something just a little bit nicer!

Comentario de Thottbot

for someone trying for more spell crit this or the more ballanced t4 chest?

Comentario de Thottbot

First of all, you can't compare PvP gear with PvE gear, so anyone saying this or that about (fill in the blank) Gladiator's Ornamented piece... stop. The 10mp5 and 42 crit on this alone makes it better than any PvP chest you can find.

Personally, I would rather use my Chestguard of Hidden Purpose from ZA than this, but that's because I like the sockets and the extra mp5 I get with that. But if you would rather have the crit, you take this until you get Kael'Thas down.

Saying +crit is better than +mp5 or +healing or vice versa is wrong. Find a balance and adjust as necessary based on what the raid and your other healers require. I'm a Flash of Light spammer, with the occassional Holy Light to keep Light's Justice active. To each his own.

/rant

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1607 armadura
+39 aguante
+40 intelecto
Durabilidad 165 / 165

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Equipar: Restaura 10 p. de maná cada 5 s.
Equipar: Aumenta la sanación que haces hasta 53 p. y el daño que infliges hasta 18 p. con todos los hechizos mágicos y efectos.

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